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2G RAM should be fine. Regarding the 64-bit Vista, it always sound good but many things need to be taken care of before you can run smooth. The question you need to ask yourself - Is it worth to use 64-bit vs. 32-bit if the overall performance just gains 7-10% depending your components?
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Well, to be honest, I've always wanted to give a 64bit OS a try. I was going to get XP64 when I built my current pc but I didn't know you needed compatible hardware parts and I didn't ask for any help either. Basically I did it all by myself without actually knowing what I'm doing. The only reason my system ever booted up is because my dad verified the connections after I assembled it.

So I figure this time is a good time to finally give ago. Powerful system, enough money to get it and I actually enjoy playing around and configuring things. I do the same with games, tweaking what I know before I even play it. So it may sound silly to some, but I find it interesting and kind of fun

And I didn't even know there were performance gains!! I thought it was all about better security and ram allocation.
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I would go 64 bit as well. No point in not going with the newest and greatest.

And i suggested G.Skill because they are cheap, reliable, and well known around here. I have the PK 2x1gb G.skill and they get the job done

I have never heard of that brand of ram... ever...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231114
Two of those would do nicely. But i'm not sure if running 2x2gb sticks or 4x1gb sticks is better. I have never had to worry about 4gigs of ram before..

And running your RAM faster than your FSB doesn't show many, if any improvement. With that 9x multiplier your probably won't even go past 800mhz much.
Running your CPU at 3600MHz with 1:1 ratio would give you 800MHz ram speed.

And the difference in RAM with the same specs is what chips are used to make it. Like how G.Skill HZ is made with D9s and thus can overclock way beyond it's retail specs.
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for a single GTX and a q66 Id reccomend atleast an OCZ or FSP 750w power supply (exactly the same)
    
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Alright so let me see if I understand this:

The Q6600 has a 9 multiplier and a 266 FSB making it 9*266=2394 (roughly 2400) right? Is the multiplier locked?

To get it where I want (3 GHz) I would have to bump it up to 9*333fsb correct? Will the memory speed jump with it?

And to run it 1:1 ratio (is it better that way? more stable?) I need to overclock all the way to 3600mhz meaning 9*400fsb, but the ram runs at 800mhz....I know I'm missing something, could you please clear this up for me? I'm very sorry, I never had the chance to overclock before, it’s my first time I just want to know how the CPU clocks influence the RAM clocks and why.

Either way, since I have about a month to go until purchase, I will wait and see if anyone can comment on that ram I found and if not, I will go with what is known and try to find the best G.SKill deal available and go with it. It was mentioned here before that 4*1gig or 2*2gig isn’t a big difference, it’s just a little harder to overclock with all 4 sticks instead of 2 from what I understand but it comes out cheaper so I will see when the time comes.

And born2killU, thx for the advice, if I find a good deal on those, I will definitely go for it
post #26 of 45
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Alright so let me see if I understand this:

The Q6600 has a 9 multiplier and a 266 FSB making it 9*266=2394 (roughly 2400) right? Is the multiplier locked?

To get it where I want (3 GHz) I would have to bump it up to 9*333fsb correct? Will the memory speed jump with it?

And to run it 1:1 ratio (is it better that way? more stable?) I need to overclock all the way to 3600mhz meaning 9*400fsb, but the ram runs at 800mhz....I know I'm missing something, could you please clear this up for me? I'm very sorry, I never had the chance to overclock before, it’s my first time I just want to know how the CPU clocks influence the RAM clocks and why.

Either way, since I have about a month to go until purchase, I will wait and see if anyone can comment on that ram I found and if not, I will go with what is known and try to find the best G.SKill deal available and go with it. It was mentioned here before that 4*1gig or 2*2gig isn’t a big difference, it’s just a little harder to overclock with all 4 sticks instead of 2 from what I understand but it comes out cheaper so I will see when the time comes.

And born2killU, thx for the advice, if I find a good deal on those, I will definitely go for it
The multi is locked on the Q6600. I find running 1:1 on my rig loses performance, timings don't matter on conroes so brute speed is better.
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post #27 of 45
Run the RAM a little higher if you could. It can't hurt, unless you have to up the timings. Which don't seem to affect intel much lol.

A better way to put it is as long as you have at least a 1:1 ratio.
I would run my RAM higher than my FSB if i could, it helps with folding. But i haven't seen any differences in 3dmark06 or any other benchmarks that i have tried.
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Nice ok, I think I'm beginning to understand. So since the multiplier is locked, my only option is to up the fsb. As I up the fsb, if things become unstable I can up the ram speed as well to keep up and if that all fails I can up the voltage by like .0X to stabilize the situation.

If it runs AT LEAST 1:1 ratio, its good but like Murlocke put it, the faster the better for these CPUs so it doesn't have to be 1:1.

Is this a correct generalization of the overclocking procedure? Or am I way off? If I am, could someone with an overclocked CPU (preferably the Q6600) perhaps guide through the general steps of overclocking your CPU so I have a better understanding of what to do? Please?

It's a shame my current motherboard locks all my overclocking options in the BIOS
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You got the basics down!
    
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As I up the fsb, if things become unstable I can up the ram speed as well to keep up and if that all fails I can up the voltage by like .0X to stabilize the situation.(
Everything you said was right, except this sounds weird, maybe you meant it some other way or it's the wording.

To me it sounds like you said if your overclock via the FSB, and it becomes unstable, you can up the ram speed to somehow resolve that instability.

But your right on the voltage
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