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Hey have any of you scene a dual core core2 duo without its top on, its not a long stretched out core, its a little guy thats about the same size as our old 90nm amd 939 single cores. Its directly in the middle. Here is apic of my 4300 naked to show you what I mean. The line method was adopted for the quad core cpus that are spread out alot farther since you have 4x45nm so two 90 equivelent cpu's a much longer area. With the dual core its totally not necessary to go with the long method unless of courese you wanna.

Allendale / Conroe probably. i'll look into it, and perhaps add more specific drawings.
EDIT: i think it's because of the 2 vs 4 mb, the latter obviously taking more space.
EDIT2: would you allow me to use your pic for "TIM Application Guide 2.0"?
post #22 of 40
Madmax, the die on a C2D is much larger than the pic you posted.
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OK I guess it could be but that is a 4300. I took the top off my self. So are the conroe larger then the allendale, maybe the 4mb cache ones are but I dont see them being much bigger.
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OK I guess it could be but that is a 4300. I took the top off my self. So are the conroe larger then the allendale, maybe the 4mb cache ones are but I dont see them being much bigger.

Pics in link

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=50
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im collecting all pics now for all cores starting at p4, probably, as they are still being used.

these are some cores i found. are there any that i can skip, or should add to the list?
Willamette
Nothwood
Prescott
Gallatin
Cedar Mill

Smithfield
Presler

Allendale
Conroe
Kentsfield
post #26 of 40
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lol I was just looking at that thread. Looks like the 6400 are slightly larger then the 4300. That is a pic of a 4300 though I didnt make it up or use a different cpu for it. Even with the 6400 it still isnt that big though.

I still think the smearing a thin layer is thebest personally and will keep using that method.
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post #27 of 40
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E6xxx & E4xxx = Vertical Line
Qs = Horizontal Line.
Single Core Processors = Rice method.
Define the orientation of the processor. With the arrow pointing to the upper right?
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post #28 of 40
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Here is how I applied mine and the results.
Very nice Illustration Chielscape



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lol I was just looking at that thread. Looks like the 6400 are slightly larger then the 4300. That is a pic of a 4300 though I didnt make it up or use a different cpu for it. Even with the 6400 it still isnt that big though.

I still think the smearing a thin layer is thebest personally and will keep using that method.

I misread your earlier post, I thought you had said they were the same size as previous 90nm cpu's.
Yeah it's not much bigger , but still bigger.
I've used all the methods of applying TIM, but this last time I decided on the line method.
Those temps are pretty darn good for 1.50Vcore, next time I pull out the CPU I will try the dot method and see if there is any difference.
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post #29 of 40
I have tried a variety of methods and IMO the key factor is the amount used--too much is far worse than too little from what I have found. I have been able to shave as much as 5 C off load temps by using less TIM...
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post #30 of 40
2 things for the new guide
1. all P4's seem to have a simlar die (in terms of shape) is this true, or is google scewing with me?
2. i cant find any pic of a P4 with see-trough IHS.
(like this: http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/...2duo_illus.jpg)
does anyone have one?
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