Barcelona is the same thing as Phenom. It is just named branded for servers.
I addressed Phenom in the same way I addressed Barcelona. It cannot compete with current Kentsfield processors let alone competing with Intel performance and price of Penyrn / Kentfeild during Q4 07 / Q1 08.
I am sorry if the cold hard fact doesn't fancy you. But it is fact. Phenom doesn't stand a chance to the stock speed, overclocked speed, or price / performance for an enthusiast.
How can you complain about fanboys when you're the anti-boy ( more hate in AMD than i see love towards intel ). Just relax, get off your soap box, and chill out.
The Phenoms may kick serious a--, and you may be wrong. They may not be good and your assumptions may be right. They may vault AMD to 50% market share....who the hell knows. Not you. Not I. So, again, chill out and quit repeating the same garbage over and over. I swear if i see this sentence, or one like it, again I'm going to scream:
"Barcelona is going to underperform and is going to suck. Penyrn is automatically going to be better anyways and they come out at the same time. This is all fact!"