Originally Posted by giecsar
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Originally Posted by giecsar
On a serious note, I noticed that pretty much all of you just use random desks or tables.
I do not understand why you guys in the USA don't use true PC desks. Are this kind of products not available there? (although I would find this very hard to believe).
Surely you find it uncomfortable to sit so close with the mouse & kb right in front your monitor.
Also, as a consequence, to you the monitors look very grainy, you can easily count the pixels (unless you have bad vision in which case I apologize), especially those of you who use large TVs.
Not to mention many of you also have many small/few large speakers on the desk, blasting in your face... it is a common misconception to think that things sound better if the speakers are an inch away from your ears.
By the looks of the way you criticize other people's builds, I'll go ahead and assume the worst about you.
We don't need "true PC desks" because they are completely unnecessary. It's a gimmick used to sell furniture, much like slapping "GAMER ULTRA 1337" will sell computers and hardware. Any desk can be a "PC desk." All it takes is for you to place your monitor at a point that you can use it comfortable, which most, if not all of us, do.
It is advised that a person positions their eyes one foot away from the top of the monitor. It's pretty easy to see that this can be done with the person you quoted. People don't act like idiots like the way you think and glue their eyes to the monitor. Unless you have a 23" screen at 800x400, you won't be able to see individual pixels. People who use large TV's generally don't sit right up against it as well and will sit quite a bit farther back than someone using a standard monitor.
We don't have speakers next to us because of the audio quality. It's so we can actually hear it without having to blare music for everyone else to hear.
It's good to know that here at good ol' OCN, we have a member that is an expert on absolutely everything and anything. We thank you for all of your contributions, giecsar, and we hope to see you around more so you can lay out more condescending advice.
It was a critique and a constructive one at that. I'm no expert, but this is just common sense. And it's advice I'm giving you, not condescending remarks. But you are free to interpret my post as you wish.
Perhaps it will help if I try to explain things better, although I suspect I'm already beating a dead horse here. You've already decided that you don't want to accept my advice, because you consider me an arrogant guy trying to tell you how to do things.
Now I've already mentioned the main reason, it's UNCOMFORTABLE , so I'm just going to address the points you've followed on or brought up.
First off, how is a true PC desk a gimmick? Have you ever worked at a real desk to see what it is like? Obviously not, otherwise you wouldn't say it's a gimmick.
Just skim through the thread and look at only a few random setups, and you will notice a number of issues that everyone who uses a table or simple desk has to deal with. (I'll just use the term table from now on).
- you can't properly arrange your stuff because the furniture was not designed to accommodate various types of objects; this leaves you with two possibilities:
a) your table is cluttered or otherwise messy
b) your table is not cluttered, but because it is only a table you are forced to keep all your stuff hidden away in some closet or something
With my desk, I have a lot of stuff within reach but it still looks nice and clean.
- then there is also the cable management, but it's basically the same idea.
Since it's very difficult to hide the cables, impossible if it's a glass table, very few of you are adventurous enough to even try it. And when you do manage to make it look it clean, it's an absolute pain to make any changes
True PC desks have holes and other features to help you with cable management
(why do you buy cases with cable management features? surely they're all gimmicky, a simple 80's gray case will do the job just fine!)
Second, to say that it is advised that a person positions their eyes one foot away from the top of the monitor is a very generic statement. A few pages back there was this guy with 3x 46" TVs, sitting a foot away (the best example I can think of). How can that be even remotely OK? You have to constantly turn your head left and right , up and down to see things...
That is of course one of those rare cases, but then I watched a video of another guy with a triple monitor setup (23" screens I believe) which was just like your typical setup with the keyboard and mouse right in front of the screen in the middle. With that setup, his girlfriend was constantly moving left and right when playing BF3 or whatever.
The following is a crazy advice, I know, but pause the game for a second and take a step back. Like magic, you'll be able to see all your monitors
OK, the above was unnecessary.
The point is the distance depends on the size of the monitor(s), clearly.
You then go on to say, "people who use large TV's generally don't sit right up against it as well and will sit quite a bit farther back than someone using a standard monitor". But, since you sit very close to a standard monitor, it means you're too close to a large TV as well.
And I could include here numerous pictures from this thread from people who probably sit even much closer, with TVs and keyboards crammed on some small table or even furniture that was never intended to be used that way..
Oh and 23" @800x400? Are you kidding me? I can barely stand my 1366x768 work laptop, I might as well rub dirt in my eyes. Most of my colleagues who use similar laptops feel the same.
Third, the speakers. You say you keep them close to hear it without having to blare the music, but really you just made that up on the spot cause you didn't know what to say.
You cannot be telling me that there is nothing in between. You have to either keep them close or turn up the volume to the max and blare your music?
Come on, surely you can listen at a comfortable level without disturbing others, just like everyone else.
This coming from a guy with christmas lights strung up on his desk with stereo equipment on it. Before you give any advice get a component rack for the receiver and a put the christmas lights back were they belong...and keep your condesending options to yourself.