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Let's get back on topic. Start a new thread if necessary.


The X1950XT 256 is an excellent card and offers superior performance to the X1950Pro 512 in many cases, and unlike the pro, it's very overclockable, easily reaching XTX speeds. In the current market, I'd get no other card. Elite-end DX9 performance will hold you over until they make a decent DX10 card. I will definitely keep this card and keep my money not wasted on a 8800. I have little faith in a 6-month old card, or it's joke of a refresh (Ultra) playing new DX10 games at all well.

But no one stilled answered my question, my question is why the ati x1950pro 256mb or 512mb is more expensive on new egg and tigerdirect than a sapphire x1950xt 256mb?
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But no one stilled answered my question, my question is why the ati x1950pro 256mb or 512mb is more expensive on new egg and tigerdirect than a sapphire x1950xt 256mb?
Same reason eVGA's 7600GS is more expensive then their 7600GT.

The X1950XT sells very well, and they've begun pushing them out hard, and thus, low costs. Take advantage of this and get one.
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Same reason eVGA's 7600GS is more expensive then their 7600GT.

The X1950XT sells very well, and they've begun pushing them out hard, and thus, low costs. Take advantage of this and get one.
i allready got one lol
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Same reason eVGA's 7600GS is more expensive then their 7600GT.

The X1950XT sells very well, and they've begun pushing them out hard, and thus, low costs. Take advantage of this and get one.
Anyways, thanks for your help, much appreciated.
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Conroe = E6xxx
Allensdale (Crappy conroe) = E4xxx
Kentsfield (Two conroes smashed together, Pentium D style) = Qxxxx

Allensdales are cheaply made conroes with half the cache.

The E6300 and E6400, often confused with the Allensdale, are conroes with half their cache DISABLED. Luckily, for the same price or cheaper, E6320 and E6420, the exact same as the above with all the cache, now exist.

I think the best all around one is the E6420. Cheap, all the cache, can be overclocked beyond 3ghz on stock cooling, still does anything you want it to at stock.

I accidentally unclocked MY E6420 to like 1600mhz and it still ran all my games amazingly.

Saying the allendale is crappy w/o any research is noobish. Also the other information you provided is incorrect. An allendale may lose 2-3% in games due to the 2 meg less cache, but also ocs a lot better on crap ram. You don't need ddr3 for it. If you want to argue, clock your e6420 @ 3 and run 3dmark 06 and tell me cpu socre. I'll do the same. Also, the allendales only have 2 megs of cache. none is disabled. The 6300 and the 6400 are the conroes which have 2 megs cache in which 2 are disabled.
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hey CuriouslyHigh, are systems are pretty much the same, what do you get in 3dmark06?
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Same reason eVGA's 7600GS is more expensive then their 7600GT.

The X1950XT sells very well, and they've begun pushing them out hard, and thus, low costs. Take advantage of this and get one.
I don't know where you are shopping but you can get a 1950pro cheaper than a 1950xt.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121031
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102067

also the 7600gs is cheaper than the gt...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130075
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130062
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It's possible. Tight timings, and a low CAS latency will count for a lot here, that's what I mean by fast, not mhz.

You have this card, and you have the RAM you'd need (2gb, possibly it's fast enough), so get Quake 4 and throw it into Ultra. Try doing it without any AA or AF on first.

Got an old CRT monitor? Bet you do. Hook it up, put it on the side of your desk, make an extended, two-monitor desktop. Have the "performance" tab of task manager constantly on that monitor, as well as ATItool, and whatever other windows you want to show your system's status. I'll give you a screenshot of mine -- I have two monitors, and it's godly. It lets you know how hard you're really pushing your card.


lol you know bandwidth wise that ram wouldn't even come close to touching what this card needs. it's partially strangled at 1800mhz ram
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I know, but there is a eVGA stock 7600GS that sells for around $130, and a stock eVGA7600GT that sells for $109 last I checked on newegg. Stock meaning not oc'd or anything.

I know the Allensdales only physically have half the cache, I tried to clarify that when I said the E6300 and E6400 had half their cache disabled.

I've heard, often, that Allensdales require more voltage to OC and are generally less capable OCers than Conroes. I think the cache is pretty insignificant actually, maybe in some newer games, but not now.

My 36mark06 score was in the high 6000's, I forgot exactly, but I haven't run it since I oc'd. I'll get back to you on that.
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But no one stilled answered my question, my question is why the ati x1950pro 256mb or 512mb is more expensive on new egg and tigerdirect than a sapphire x1950xt 256mb?
Because ATI charges more for their cards than Saspphire does. If you look at the 2900s, ATI's is $450, while GECube and HIS both offer their's for $410. ATI just charges more for people who think that means they're getting "the real thing".

I'm fairly certain that the Sapphire x1950Pro would be cheaper than the Sapphire x1950XT.
    
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