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Alright cool, CuriouslyHigh, can you run your system at COMPLETE stock, thatd be awesome =]
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Originally Posted by pow3rtr1p View Post
Because ATI charges more for their cards than Saspphire does. If you look at the 2900s, ATI's is $450, while GECube and HIS both offer their's for $410. ATI just charges more for people who think that means they're getting "the real thing".

I'm fairly certain that the Sapphire x1950Pro would be cheaper than the Sapphire x1950XT.
Yea but like 20-30$ cheaper and some versions of x1950pro like the HIS are over 200$
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post #53 of 71
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Alright cool, CuriouslyHigh, can you run your system at COMPLETE stock, thatd be awesome =]
Hm .. putting my CPU back at stock is a pain because I can't seem to OC it without stepping. I will do it soon though, for the sake of knowing the number.

Right now, here are my OC's

GPU core: 648mhz
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alright cool, just i want to compare my systems score to a comparable rig =]
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Difference between zalman x1950xt cooler and the HIS one?
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60FPS (max for this 2ms monitor, and max the eye can see, more FPS is a waste)
More FPS is NOT a waste. I can clearly tell the difference between 60 and 100 FPS. There is no "Max" for monitors. If your refresh rate is 60hz, that has no bearing on FPS unless you are running vsync.

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I DO KNOW that a 2ms monitor maxes out at 60FPS. At least I think it does. So what kind of monitor can display the 952346829FPS rates people get in CSS?
All monitors can.

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DDR2 is superior RAM, it's twice as capable as DDR, so yes. I forget exactly what, but I *think* DDR is 4-bit and DDR2 is 8-bit. Very likely I'm wrong, but I DO KNOW that DDR2 makes a big improvement over DDR, especially if you have an AM2 proc.
DDR2 is not twice as capable. Just because there's 800mhz DDR2 that doesn't mean that it's twice as good as DDR-400. AM2 has little to no benefit by going to DDR2. I don't know where you got your info but it's flawed.

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Conroe = E6xxx
Allensdale (Crappy conroe) = E4xxx
Kentsfield (Two conroes smashed together, Pentium D style) = Qxxxx

Allensdales are cheaply made conroes with half the cache.
Allendales are not crappy conroes at all. An allendale is just a 2MB cache Conroe and there's nothing "crappy" about it. The extra 2MB of cache on the Conroe's is about as useless as it gets for real world performance. The only thing it helps is synthetic testing like superpi (because superpi can fit inside the 4MB L2, therefore outperforming the 2MB cache models).

I had to clear this up, it was bothering me.
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More FPS is NOT a waste. I can clearly tell the difference between 60 and 100 FPS. There is no "Max" for monitors. If your refresh rate is 60hz, that has no bearing on FPS unless you are running vsync.



All monitors can.



DDR2 is not twice as capable. Just because there's 800mhz DDR2 that doesn't mean that it's twice as good as DDR-400. AM2 has little to no benefit by going to DDR2. I don't know where you got your info but it's flawed.



Allendales are not crappy conroes at all. An allendale is just a 2MB cache Conroe and there's nothing "crappy" about it. The extra 2MB of cache on the Conroe's is about as useless as it gets for real world performance. The only thing it helps is synthetic testing like superpi (because superpi can fit inside the 4MB L2, therefore outperforming the 2MB cache models).

I had to clear this up, it was bothering me.


So if i got like a 60HZ monitor it works over 60FPS, and about the memory, is it a big imporvement from 2GB DDR PC3200 to 2GB DDR2 800MHZ? Can you tell me like a percentage increase?
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So if i got like a 60HZ monitor it works over 60FPS, and about the memory, is it a big imporvement from 2GB DDR PC3200 to 2GB DDR2 800MHZ? Can you tell me like a percentage increase?
If you're staying with AMD, it's not worth the upgrade to DDR2. If you're going to Intel, the DDR2 will be better.
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Difference between zalman x1950xt cooler and the HIS one?
the HIS is better =]
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post #60 of 71
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the HIS is better =]
Cool, thx
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