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Originally Posted by Namrac View Post
Or, it's true... Valve coded parts of Source to work better with ATI cards than nVidia cards.
I am not denying that SOME games are coded in FAVOUR of one company.

But Nvidia is nto stating that, they are stating foul play. Hence that the programers deliberately coded the game to disable some of Nvidias features.

There is a difference between coding in favour of a company and coding to prevent one company from getting playable frames in the game

Nvidia are stating they coded so that the feautres were disabled (hence leading to the game been unplayable)

As far as i know, Source is playable on Nvidia cards
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I am not denying that SOME games are coded in FAVOUR of one company.

But Nvidia is nto stating that, they are stating foul play. Hence that the programers deliberately coded the game to disable some of Nvidias features.

There is a difference between coding in favour of a company and coding to prevent one company from getting playable frames in the game

Nvidia are stating they coded so that the feautres were disabled (hence leading to the game been unplayable)

As far as i know, Source is playable on Nvidia cards
There is no way to prove it to anyone who doesn't know how to code, they cannot post a 30 page code from the game and expect people to understand it.

My proof is: I cannot play the game on the lowest settings under DX10 without going to a extremely low resolution like 1024x768 (On a 24" screen..). And look at my computer, I don't see many people that can play it if I can't.
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'Nvidia says....'

This is not a fact, i'm sorry but there is no evidence present.

The only thing i see is Nvidia crying because they lost just as bad as ATI

I am in no way an ATI fanboy, i am and will purchase the 8800GTX when i find the money in a few months.

But we have to face it that they are not looking good on DX10 platforms........Its not only COJ that it failed on...........
The 8800 didn't fail in the Lost Planet DX10, it got 90 FPS compared to the X2900's 30.
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How could you investigate pure code of some compiled software, unless you hack into COJ project and steal their pre-compiled code and that's illegal.
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How could you investigate pure code of some compiled software, unless you hack into COJ project and steal their pre-compiled code and that's illegal.
You can look at the .ini and config files. Those are not compiled and are usually text or binary files.
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Murlocke, because you cannot play the game it does not mean that it is the games fault

Granted they would not bring out a game if the current generation of GPU's could not handle it. But i am saying that jus tbecause Nvidia scaled poorly, doesn't mean it is rigged.

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How could you investigate pure code of some compiled software, unless you hack into COJ project and steal their pre-compiled code and that's illegal.
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post #17 of 51
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I am not denying that SOME games are coded in FAVOUR of one company.

But Nvidia is nto stating that, they are stating foul play. Hence that the programers deliberately coded the game to disable some of Nvidias features.

There is a difference between coding in favour of a company and coding to prevent one company from getting playable frames in the game

Nvidia are stating they coded so that the feautres were disabled (hence leading to the game been unplayable)

As far as i know, Source is playable on Nvidia cards
Stop complaining, ATi said the very same thing about Lost Planet DX10 demo. If they're doing this crap on each other than I'm sticking with nVidia seeing they have Unreal, Alan Wake, and Crysis.

It's not an nVidian thing, it's a marketing thing. I'd love to see price war than rivaling alliances between game developers. The first cyber World War.
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>_- errr i think just that nvidia is kinda trying to errm explaine junk, im with iced here even though i am a Nvidia fanboy ! but yeah i unno.
It's not junk, this means a lot to us gamers. If they're doing this to each other then what's in it for us? First nVidia did this to ATi in Lost Planet and ATi striked back with CoJ. Don't forget ATi also claimed that Lost Planet was optimized for nVidia.

And about the fanboy part, sure you can claim whatever fanboy you are, but it doesn't make your arguments any stronger. This method is quite popular these days. I'm mutual, I just wanna play the damn games and not have this stupid war, this is just going too far. While they're playing unfair to each other, it's the consumers that take most of the damage.
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Er... don't they do tis already? Code and optimize games for certain hardware? With the difference gap in tech. between ATI and nvidia cards widening this will be more of a trend.
If you all want superb performance in DX10 software, wait for the 2nd and 3rd generation cards, because the current generation is pathetic.
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Er... don't they do tis already? Code and optimize games for certain hardware? With the difference gap in tech. between ATI and nvidia cards widening this will be more of a trend.
If you all want superb performance in DX10 software, wait for the 2nd and 3rd generation cards, because the current generation is pathetic.
It's the first generation DX10 games that are pathetic......This generation still has loads of potential. Crytek claimed that Crysis can run on Ultra High on E6600 and 8800GTS, and if that's pathetic then have fun waiting, I don't think any single last generation card can handle even DX9 on 1680x1050 with insane AA and AF. It might seem pathetic to those who missed the first 7-8 months.
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