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id go with a 7900gs in sli with my single card i score 6681 on 3dmark 06 and im playin stalker right now with it on high at 1100 somthin res runs perfect.
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Sorry, I hate to join the "opposition", but getting two 7900GS's simply because you have SLI, and want to run waterblocks, over buying one 8800GTS isn't very logical. I have five computers in my apartment but I don't run all of them because I can... but I do run two of them (gaming computer and video editing computer). Comparing a 7950GX2 to an 8800GTS is one thing, but comparing two 7900GS to an 880GTS is a whole different apple. Check this for some food for thought, and keep in mind that when running SLI you don't simply get 200% of one 7900GS... its not that simple (its like running a dual CPU system... you get maybe 180% of what one CPU/GPU would do). But check out the comparo:
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....=443&card2=475
Now you might get a little extra GPU RAM bandwidth with 2x7900GS, but you won't notice it. With the 8800GTS though, you get about eight or nine times the shader operations as two 7900GS's. You not only get DX10 (you won't need to upgrade an 8800GTS in the future, but if anything just get another for SLI), you also get shader4... and does anyone know if the 8800GTS can be softmodded to the 8800GTX? That makes the discussion very different if you can...

Anyway, I forgot my other train of thought from the beginning... you can buy an 8800GTS for about $300 w/ $40 MIR (effectively $260 after you wait a while). You don't need to water cool it. Really, you don't, and your CPU will be happy you don't have two more cores being cooled in the same line, assuming you aren't running two separate water lines. I have a WC system in my video editing rig, and I purposely do not water cool my GPU; I bought an upgraded air cooler instead of a water block for the GPU. Just because you do water cooling doesn't mean everything needs to be water cooled. That train of thought can actually be harmful to your OC potential. Anyway, when it comes to price, $300 for a very nice card, or $150 for a 7900GS, times two, plus $80 in water blocks...? It just doesn't make sense to me. Especially if the GTS can be softmodded to GTX. I don't know if it can, but changes the face of the game if it can.

Anyway, if it was me making the purchase, which you've pointed out its not, this would be an easy choice: 8800GTS. The price difference is close enough to negligible. Losing one PCI slot is nothing to complain about, unless you only have three total to work with. Plus, lots of PCI cards you might potentially be using are also made in PCIx models as well. The mere performance difference would probably be negligible as well, at least nothing really noticeable. But you get a few things with the 8800GTS you don't get with the others... when you decide to upgrade to Vista, then you already have DX10 and shader4 ready to go, and no need to upgrade you cards again; worst case scenario you buy another 8800GTS and run SLI. And has been mentioned before, the 8800GTS runs DX9 just fine until then...

Oh yeah, disregard my sig, as "never stop upgrading your computer" would be in-line with buying two 7900GS's so you have a reason to upgrade again later...
    
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Now, if you are still set on getting two 7900GS cards, get these below... 512mb RAM each:
http://www.pcdirect.com/product.asp?Sku=VI%2DNVP7900GS512DDT

I found them through www.pricewatch.com, and at least through there it showed the shipping as free, so about $140 each: http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/searc...&c=Video+Cards
    
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79GS and the 86GTS performs the same, only one is DX9 and one is DX10.

I'd say get the 79GS because no DX10 games are coming out. and it is way cheaper than 86GTS
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out of curiosity whats the recommended watts 4 the 8800gts anyways? single card and sli. because i might not even have a psu powerful enough for it.
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Well the 7900SLI draws about the same amount of power as a single 8800GTS and if we're talking about that X-Finity, you should be fine. Would need an upgrade for 8800SLI though but I wouldn't SLI 8800GTS320's anyway for reasons I stated before .
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79GS and the 86GTS performs the same, only one is DX9 and one is DX10.

I'd say get the 79GS because no DX10 games are coming out. and it is way cheaper than 86GTS
meh... check this out:
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Originally Posted by http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=639&p=0
So therefore the GeForce 8600 GTS not only has to overcome the 7900 GS in the $200 US price bracket, but also the X1950 Pro. While the 8600 GTS does offer a few unique features that are not found on these two older graphics cards, it can’t compete with them performance wise and this is what the majority of gamers are going to be looking at. There was not one game that the 8600 GTS was able to defeat the 7900 GS in and honestly we do not find this the least bit surprising.

After all, the 7900 GS offers significantly more memory bandwidth thanks to its 256-bit wide memory bus. The only advantage the 8600 GTS has is its extreme core and memory clock frequencies, which become less of an advantage once the 7900 GS is overclocked. At the end of the day if I had my pick between existing 7900 GS graphics cards or a new 8600 GTS graphics card, there is little chance I would pick the Direct X10 compliant product. It is our opinion that the 7900 GS is still the superior product despite its lack of DX10 support!
and dont stop reading after the 3d06 scores, the 8600gts gets POOPED on.
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thats dope, sounds really good actually. cant wait to do it, so impatient =P. hows rainbow six anyways? i heard it was good. and yea im gonna try to beat Kramy's score of 735 core and 980 mem. lets see how high i can get it. =P http://www.overclock.net/graphics-ca...verclocks.html
rainbow six is RAW as heck. its ridiculous how far they have pushed DX9. and its always nice to know that i'm playing the game at the resolutions and texture settings that the game was originally rendered in back at Ubisoft
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plus if the 8800gts proves to be superior than the 7 series why is the 7950 GX2 still more than double the price of it?
Because they are now quite hard to come buy, but VERY few people are buying them because the 8800 is faster
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79GS and the 86GTS performs the same, only one is DX9 and one is DX10.

I'd say get the 79GS because no DX10 games are coming out. and it is way cheaper than 86GTS
Erm, no DX10 games are coming out? the 8600GTS is faster than the 7900GT without AA and slower with it.
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out of curiosity whats the recommended watts 4 the 8800gts anyways? single card and sli. because i might not even have a psu powerful enough for it.
The link below, with the comparisons, has the wattage draw for each in the bottom section:
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....=443&card2=475

7900GS: 82W; x2 = 164W
8800GTS: 147W

I highly recommend using that site's comparison section for perusing graphics cards and comparing which ones are "better"... it gives you a good idea of where each one prevails or fails when everything is calculated out into real graphics processing...
    
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