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Originally Posted by ElMikeTheMike View Post
Ummm...you're flat out wrong. Blu-Ray uses Mpeg4 also.

Please research the topic before you state things as fact.


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Looks like Sony's been busted for using a really old codec for its next-gen Blu-ray format. For its first Blu-ray movies, Sony will encode with MPEG-2, which is the same codec used for today's old-fashioned DVDs. Don Eklund, senior vice president of advanced technology for Sony Pictures, has gone on record as saying:

Advanced formats don't necessarily improve picture quality. Our goal is to present the best picture quality for Blu-ray. Right now, and for the foreseeable future, that's with MPEG-2.

Wowee, I say. Now, isn't Blu-ray supposed to support the MPEG-4 AVC, also known as H.264, which enables content to be encoded at much higher bitrates without huge increases in file size? I mean, isn't this kind of the point? But the biggest surprise
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post #22 of 62
www.blu-ray.com/faq

How many threads do I have to post this in?? lol

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What video codecs will Blu-ray support?


MPEG-2 - enhanced for HD, also used for playback of DVDs and HDTV recordings.
MPEG-4 AVC - part of the MPEG-4 standard also known as H.264 (High Profile and Main Profile).
SMPTE VC-1 - standard based on Microsoft's Windows Media Video (WMV) technology.

Please note that this simply means that all Blu-ray players and recorders will have to support playback of these video codecs, it will still be up to the movie studios to decide which video codec(s) they use for their releases.
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post #24 of 62
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They will both be around for quite some time once the dual players and drives hit the mainstrream. There won't be a need for the other major companies to standardize with Sony after that. Dual players are going to be like buying a regular DVD player now, nobody buys one that can't also play mp3, wma, etc. My Uncle went with an Oppo so anything I have in Xvid or divx is fair game for that thing.

There's ZERO reason to fanboy either of these standards because the end result is the same either way. I've seen both displayed at Fry's and I can't tell the difference, they both look and sound great to me on quality equipment.
BlueRay is better from a PC standpoint, also sounds cooler i think is half of it.
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post #25 of 62
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Blue-Ray is MPEG2.
HD-DVD is MPEG4.

Get it now?
HD-DVD is better quality but it doesn't have as much space as Blue-Ray so things balance out.

No offense but half of the posts your making, make no sense what so ever, you contradict your statements. Just letting you know, back up your owns statements.
Until you provide VISUAL evidence that HD DVD is better then it is a assumption based on specs and not actual performance....BR looks just as good if not better. Also if we went by specs alone, BR would be considered better...
post #26 of 62
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Originally Posted by ElMikeTheMike View Post
www.blu-ray.com/faq

How many threads do I have to post this in?? lol
None.

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What video codecs will Blu-ray support?


MPEG-2 - enhanced for HD, also used for playback of DVDs and HDTV recordings.
MPEG-4 AVC - part of the MPEG-4 standard also known as H.264 (High Profile and Main Profile).
SMPTE VC-1 - standard based on Microsoft's Windows Media Video (WMV) technology.

Please note that this simply means that all Blu-ray players and recorders will have to support playback of these video codecs, it will still be up to the movie studios to decide which video codec(s) they use for their releases.
Take a second look at what you just quoted, HD-DVD had MPEG4 support before Blue-ray implemented it. BR still use MPEG-2, the higher formats are still in but because of the amount of space BR has it's a lot easier
It's not even entirely supported in BR releases.

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As of June 12, 2007, 289[35] titles have been released on Blu-ray Disc in the United States. The earliest releases used MPEG-2 video compression. This is the compression method used on DVDs. The first releases using the newer VC-1 and AVC codecs were introduced in September 2006.[36] The first movies using dual layer discs (50 GB) were introduced in November 2006. Since January 2007, new releases on dual layer disc have represented about half of all new releases approximately 75 titles and 2.5 mm discs.
And plus HD-DVD has MPEG4 support, it had MPEG-2 support but its MPEG4 codec has had longer support then Blue-Ray.
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post #27 of 62
Regular DVD's look like poo on my monitor (1920x1200).
But look absolutely fantastic on my regular old TV. My vote
is to bypass HD-DVD and BluRay and head straight for the
HVD that's gonna be out round 2010-12.

(HVD = Holographic Disc - 300GB of pure uncompressed goodness)

Mmmm .... videophile ecstasy.

Holographic Versatile Disc
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post #28 of 62
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Originally Posted by Malachor View Post
Blue-Ray is MPEG2.
HD-DVD is MPEG4.

Get it now?
HD-DVD is better quality but it doesn't have as much space as Blue-Ray so things balance out.

No offense but half of the posts your making, make no sense what so ever, you contradict your statements. Just letting you know, back up your owns statements.
I'll just go ahead and quote you again because you seem to have forgotten what you typed.

And if you read the rest of what I quoted, its up to the studios to determine what codecs are used. Not Sony.

Edit - And you still haven't produced this $200 HD-DVD player yet.

Edit 2 - And by looking at that chart, Blu-Ray has better overall specs, so I'm not sure why you're arguing for HD-DVD, other than you might possible already own an HD-DVD player in the form of a xbox 360 addon.
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post #29 of 62
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I'll just go ahead and quote you again because you seem to have forgotten what you typed.

And if you read the rest of what I quoted, its up to the studios to determine what codecs are used. Not Sony.

Edit - And you still haven't produced this $200 HD-DVD player yet.
Ok then I'll be clearer.

Blue-Ray has been using MPEG2 for a while, it's using MPEG4 now.
HD-DVD hasn't been using MPEG2 as long, it's been using MPEG4.
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post #30 of 62
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Originally Posted by Malachor View Post
Ok then I'll be clearer.

Blue-Ray has been using MPEG2 for a while, it's using MPEG4 now.
HD-DVD hasn't been using MPEG2 as long, it's been using MPEG4.
Don't worry about ElMikeTheMike, he's just a Sony fanboy (even though he owns a X360 as well) and a Blu-Ray fanboy who just won't stop talking.
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