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will the quad core still run all the games decently that ive been missing out on in the meantime? (ie CS:Source, STALKER, FEAR, Oblivion, BF2, etc.)
yeah you should do just fine
the only difference between the Q6600 and the E6600 other than the number of cores seems to be its overclocking stability. i have seen the Q's get up into the low 3ghz realm, but not nearly as high as the E6600s (3.8+), and also heat. the Q's seem to be generating more heat than the E's
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For future proofing, the Quad is indeed the best pick. However, it will take a while before you really need it.

If you plan SLI in the future, get a more powerful PSU, like the Silverstone OP750, DA750 or even the DA850.

If you do not plan SLI, then pick an Intel P35 based motherboard. Simply the best overclockers on the market. Here is a bunch:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131182
The Asus P5K is really good, but don't overlook Gigabyte

The Quad overclocks a lot better in a board with the P35 chipset than in older chipsets. Not sure why, but it just does .

I would save some money on the RAM. This G.Skill kit is very good, overclocks a lot (beyond DDR2 1000 in general), and isn't very expensive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065
    
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post #13 of 30
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Doesn't look to bad. For some reason you have 4 2Gb kits of ram listed... might want to adjust that. I'd also recommend avoiding the TR 680i mobo, as it doesn't support any quad core overclocking. check out eVGA's site for info on the different board specs.


I also second the Q6600, it may not OC to the clock of a E6600 (though recent steppings have been only marginal), but its much more future proofed. and with that size monitor you probably don't need a GTX, a GTS640 would do just fine for now, and save you a couple hundred bucks.
what MOBO would you recommend? I'd like one that can do SLI (in the future i want to drop another gtx/gts in there, i believe the PSU i chose should accommodate) and OC a quad. i can't find any specs anywhere on which ones OC better
    
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For future proofing, the Quad is indeed the best pick. However, it will take a while before you really need it.

If you plan SLI in the future, get a more powerful PSU, like the Silverstone OP750, DA750 or even the DA850.

If you do not plan SLI, then pick an Intel P35 based motherboard. Simply the best overclockers on the market. Here is a bunch:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131182
The Asus P5K is really good, but don't overlook Gigabyte

The Quad overclocks a lot better in a board with the P35 chipset than in older chipsets. Not sure why, but it just does .

I would save some money on the RAM. This G.Skill kit is very good, overclocks a lot (beyond DDR2 1000 in general), and isn't very expensive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065
yeah i wanted a p5k for the overclocking prowess, but then id have to forgo the SLI option, and it seems like planning for a future SLI would make this build more futureproof

but im a noob, i could easily be wrong.
    
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for memory:
either this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231065
or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146565
for cooler:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835154001
or the led version (looks awesome)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835154002
the big typhoon is often also recommended
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106080
mobo (if you dont mind the extra cost):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131182
(SLI isnt really worth it, just buy a new card when the time comes)

ROFL, i see a lot of people posted in the last 15 minutes i was looking at newegg.
post #16 of 30
The Corsair 620W isn't capable of running SLI-ed 8800GTXs in the long run. Yes, it ran it for a bit... agreed. But I doubt it will hold up over time. It's good quality, but just not powerful enough.

This would be my best pic if you want a modular PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256017

And this with fixed wires:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256016

They're the same... just one of them is modular and the other is not.

Do note that nVidia 680i chipset boards don't overclock a Quad that well...

with that monitor, I'd reconsider SLI plans... there is no need for it.

When you need the extra power, there is likely a newer generation card available. Upgrading a single card is often a better idea than adding a second card of a then older generation. Right now, if you bought an 7900GTX a year ago... would you add a second one or buy an 8800 series?
    
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Do note that nVidia 680i chipset boards don't overclock a Quad that well...

with that monitor, I'd reconsider SLI plans... there is no need for it.

When you need the extra power, there is likely a newer generation card available. Upgrading a single card is often a better idea than adding a second card of a then older generation. Right now, if you bought an 7900GTX a year ago... would you add a second one or buy an 8800 series?
exactly what i was saying. nice to know i was right ;P
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When you need the extra power, there is likely a newer generation card available. Upgrading a single card is often a better idea than adding a second card of a then older generation. Right now, if you bought an 7900GTX a year ago... would you add a second one or buy an 8800 series?
very good point, you sold me on going with a single card

i redid most of my list:
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion...e+%24%24+Build
i'm pretty happy with it, upgraded to the 22" samsung and still come out cheaper than before (add ~$40 for the quad when that comes out and it comes out to about $1700 after shipping/rebates)

anything else im missing? how CRUCIAL is a sound card?
    
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how CRUCIAL is a sound card?
the word crucial and sound card shouldn't go together. a sound card is the last thing modern computers need in terms of hardware. and need isn't even really in there. on board sound is more than fine for 90% of computer users. when trying to save and go bang for buck, sound cards should always be left out in order to save money for the things that really matter. the only exception to this is if the rig is going to do alot of audio/video oriented work, other than that buy a sound card when you have extra money and dont know what to get with it
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I would go with a better power supply. But, other than that, our rigs are almost identical. Same Processor, same Ram, same Graphics Card, same Montior, same CPU Cooler, and I have that DVD Burner; I might pick up a second one because it is amazing.

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