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Sorreh people! Get all the way up to the screen before Windows boot and it's all black.

I'm willing to bet, though, that someone with more experience can get 6 x 500FSB on this board.

bios looks like:

6 x 500
DDR 2 x 2 for 1000
DDR 2 OverVoltage + 0.2 (2.0V)
FSB OV + .35
MCH OV + 0.37
vCore = 1.57

NO CAN DO!
Definitely need more VDimm. HZ's should be fine up to 2.3V.
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Great job so far Audi, and as Chozart said, a stable overclock of 4.0 or above will be difficult at best on Air. These boards can probably do that on dual cores much easier, but with the quad you are dealing with a lot more heat output.

3.6 is a big improvement over your previous board, and a 1.2Ghz OC is something to be proud of for sure.

From the thread that list OCs and Vcores, you can see that stable 24/7 overclocks on the quads are not at 3.6. My phase unit does help quite a bit, but the others on air are not that high. I am hoping with the new P35 boards I can get my quads to 3.6 on air. As soon as I have my Water Cooling setup I will see what extra headroom it provides.

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vDimm wasn't the issue at all, dudes. As I've stated I had stable OC on my ram with 2.0v and haven't had an issue. And that was with 4 GIgs.

I will try to stabilize the 3.6ghz OC, managed to get a Stable 3.4ghz last night and my load temps were 72c YOW!!!!!

I also need to reseat the HSF because I didn't bother redoing the AS5. I just kinda slapped the cooler back on with the AS5 that was already there.

But hey, everything works so I'm happy! I thought I'd have a problem with other Operating Systems but those booted up just fine as well!

P35 is for the win! Bring on the Q6850!!!
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Definitely a serious headache. On a late work night so I had to leave my computer. Sniffle.

But, before I left I had to rip out the 2 gigs again just to get it to post. Also, I think this board's giving me issues at 3.0Ghz and all four Dimms where as the 965P-DS3 was perfect and NEVER gave me an issue.

I can't seem to boot again at the same settings from the DS3. Gonna try a healthy medium like 3.4ghz And DDR2-800 to see how that goes. Got a strong feeling that it won't work, though.

Also, I could definitely boot up in @ 3.6ghz and All four gigs, but stabilizing is a different story. BIOS settings look like:

Multi: 9
FSB: 402
Memory: 2.50 ( 2:3 divider) = 1000
Timings: 5-5-5-10-2T
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DIMM Performance: Option 2
Board Performance: Standard
DDR2 Voltage: .2+ (2.0v)
PCI-E overVoltage: .35 (!!!)
FSB overVoltage: .375 (!!!)
MCH OverVoltage: .35 (!!!)
vCore: 1.475 (!!!)

Insane and I'm still unstable. I think, at this point, the two things that've put me against the wall are A) G.Skill HZ 800 (Should try 1066 Sticks for such a high OC) and B) Q6600 Stepping/Revision.

I honestly don't think it's the board.
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youre running at 55 degrees on load for 12 hours? nice.
also try tightening up your ram timings if someone hasnt suggested it yet.
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nice job audi i still don know get an p5k or the ds3 but nice job man
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If you look up your board on some other sites that have been testing it for about a month now, you will see that the number one complaint is memory stability. The opinion going is that Gigabyte is still working out timing and strap issue in the bios. You may need to add a bit more juice to your ram for now until a bios is released that fixes the issue.

I did quite a bit of searching, and there is not a lot of bios settings being posted on the web compared to some of the other P35 boards. That does make it much harder to find out the quirks in new boards.

Your vcore does seem high for that OC. Also if you are actually running at a 2:3 divider, then you are at 1200mhz, not 1000mhz, so make sure you are not actually trying to run at 1200. 1000mhz at a 400mhz fsb would be 4:5.

Can you post some screen shots of your bios settings. Maybe something will jump out at us.

As far as temps go, 70C does seem high for sure. But I can tell you that on stock cooling and stock settings, the Quads can hit 70C full load. There is a reason they throttle at 100C rather than 85C like other C2D. I would work on getting it down. 55C may be ideal on full load, but not practical with the quads when overclocking. This is just an opinion of mine when it comes to the temp, so go with what you are comfortable with. I am not trying to make mine last 10 years, 2 years is more than enough for my needs
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Honestly? I would suggest going with Asus instead of Gigabyte. There's a really big reason why I stick with Gigabyte, it's because of my OS choices and what I have to have on a board. Gigabyte's boards are pretty much switch and play for me.

I would REALLY suggest trying out the Asus board until more people try out the different versions of the Gigabyte board. DQ6 probably stomps the DS3P and in hindsight I should've ordered that.

As far as timings go, do you think 5-5-5-10 is too loose? What would you suggest I switch to in a fit to stabilize 3.4ghz to 3.6?

About the 55c load: That's at 3.0Ghz on AIR on the 965P DS3 board. Not the P35. However, they're still great temps for Air cooling on a Quad, I think. Can't wait for QX6850, seriously!

Kinda questioning myself: This is kinda pointless when considering A) I'm going to get a new CPU soon anyway. B) X38 Board is imenent for me. C) 3.0Ghz is plenty-fast for what I do. I just can't help myself, though. ;___;
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If you look up your board on some other sites that have been testing it for about a month now, you will see that the number one complaint is memory stability. The opinion going is that Gigabyte is still working out timing and strap issue in the bios. You may need to add a bit more juice to your ram for now until a bios is released that fixes the issue.

I did quite a bit of searching, and there is not a lot of bios settings being posted on the web compared to some of the other P35 boards. That does make it much harder to find out the quirks in new boards.

Your vcore does seem high for that OC. Also if you are actually running at a 2:3 divider, then you are at 1200mhz, not 1000mhz, so make sure you are not actually trying to run at 1200. 1000mhz at a 400mhz fsb would be 4:5.

Can you post some screen shots of your bios settings. Maybe something will jump out at us.

As far as temps go, 70C does seem high for sure. But I can tell you that on stock cooling and stock settings, the Quads can hit 70C full load. There is a reason they throttle at 100C rather than 85C like other C2D. I would work on getting it down. 55C may be ideal on full load, but not practical with the quads when overclocking. This is just an opinion of mine when it comes to the temp, so go with what you are comfortable with. I am not trying to make mine last 10 years, 2 years is more than enough for my needs

You're right it's 4:5. Sorry about the misinformation. I'll take pictures of my Bios when I get home, tonight.

I can actually agree with the Memory issue, and I dunno much. At 2.1v I couldn't get the system to post. I got a Memory Fail error in PC Health Status. I'll try 2.3v+ as soon as I get home because it's really ticking me off that I can't even go back to 3.0Ghz without issues.

The reason that I stick with Gigabyte, though, is because of OS X. I have to have OS X and Asus boards have issues in OS X. Gotta do what I gotta do. xDDD

On the temps issue: Are you saying that my temperatures are actually okay for a Quad? Or are you saying 55c @ 3.0GHz Load is bad? You've got a LOT of Quad's so I definitely respect your opinion on these things. If you think that 72c @ 3.6Ghz load isn't bad then hell... 3.6Ghz it is. LoL

Edit here: I'm also thinking that I'll tear out another Gig to see what I can do with one Dimm inserted instead. For some reason, having to OverVolt the PCI more than .1+ is ridiculous just to achieve a higher OC.

I mean, for 3.0Ghz on the DS3 Board it require no OverVolts. It's still at Normal. 3.4-3.6Ghz Cant' be that large of a jump to require ridiculous volts on FSB, NorthBridge(MCH), or PCi-E or am I just wrong?
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You're right it's 4:5. Sorry about the misinformation. I'll take pictures of my Bios when I get home, tonight.

I can actually agree with the Memory issue, and I dunno much. At 2.1v I couldn't get the system to post. I got a Memory Fail error in PC Health Status. I'll try 2.3v+ as soon as I get home because it's really ticking me off that I can't even go back to 3.0Ghz without issues.

The reason that I stick with Gigabyte, though, is because of OS X. I have to have OS X and Asus boards have issues in OS X. Gotta do what I gotta do. xDDD

On the temps issue: Are you saying that my temperatures are actually okay for a Quad? Or are you saying 55c @ 3.0GHz Load is bad? You've got a LOT of Quad's so I definitely respect your opinion on these things. If you think that 72c @ 3.6Ghz load isn't bad then hell... 3.6Ghz it is. LoL
I wish I could answer the temperature questions with absolute fact, but I can not. For all we know, 72C may be ok since stock cooling is not much better. But it sure seems hot. Load temps of lower to mid 60s is what I shoot for.
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