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Is XSPC kit not available to you in the States? Here in the UK its a well known watercooling kit maker and their products are solid, especially their reservoirs!

XSPC RESERVOIRS
XSPC PRODUCTS

Its just ive never seen any1 mention their products on here.
    
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Is XSPC kit not available to you in the States? Here in the UK its a well known watercooling kit maker and their products are solid, especially their reservoirs!

XSPC RESERVOIRS
XSPC PRODUCTS

Its just ive never seen any1 mention their products on here.
They can be found but not often.

Their pumps are quite weak...
Waterblocks are not that good...
They use aluminum for the reservoirs...
They tend to use smaller tubing....
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Yeah those are strictly low flow WC'ing gear...I don't know why they make copper WB's then use aluminum in the other parts...
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You can build a better inaudible kit for the price of a Zalman kit. In some cases, the Zalman passive kits perform WORSE than the stock cooler.
Zalman is far more expensive than a customed kit. However, they do provide EXCELLENT temp's for a fanless WC system. My Reserator keeps my P4 630j @ 42c when running F@H on both cores...and has my 7600gs [vmod'd to 1.41v] in the loop. Overall...I would not say those are bad temps..at all.

In contrast, I spent ~250$ on the Zalman and about 180$ on my DD kit, which I pieced together. Performance is better, with the customed system, but my fans put off around 40db...which is like a motorcycle sitting next to the Zalman.

I dont regret buying the Reserator, it is very reliable and easy to maintain...that alone is worth a little extra $$ in my opinion.
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Zalman is far more expensive than a customed kit. However, they do provide EXCELLENT temp's for a fanless WC system. My Reserator keeps my P4 630j @ 42c when running F@H on both cores...and has my 7600gs [vmod'd to 1.41v] in the loop. Overall...I would not say those are bad temps..at all.

In contrast, I spent ~250$ on the Zalman and about 180$ on my DD kit, which I pieced together. Performance is better, with the customed system, but my fans put off around 40db...which is like a motorcycle sitting next to the Zalman.

I dont regret buying the Reserator, it is very reliable and easy to maintain...that alone is worth a little extra $$ in my opinion.
For $250, you can build a better performing inaudible WC setup. Just use a BI Pro III ($35) plus some very low speed fans. You won't be able to hear it from 3' away.

What makes the Zalman silent? Just a large fanless radiator. You can use a normal low CFM rad which would provide vastly more surface area. Then all you need is a tiny bit of airflow... From testing, the difference of 0CFM to around 4x20CFM is almost 18C!
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Their pumps are quite weak...
Waterblocks are not that good...
They use aluminum for the reservoirs...
They tend to use smaller tubing....
1) Agree with u on the pumps but not every1 is putting loads on components in a loop so they can be ok for small loops.
2) Agree with you again, im not a fan of their WC blocks
3) ...and? as oppose to acrylic which known to be really good at dispersing heat?? hmmm I cant see a problem with them being aluminium!
4) All my XSPC stuff is 1/2" tubing so thats flawed! Their threads are all G1/4 so you can use wot ever tube size you like.

Im not arguing, but your views are somewhat different to mine abt it all.
    
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3) ...and? as oppose to acrylic which known to be really good at dispersing heat?? hmmm I cant see a problem with them being aluminium!
It is called galvanic corrosion. The aluminum will eventually be "eatten away" by the copper. You can reduce the rate by adding anti-corrosives. However, this will alway lower your performance.

Here is an example of a copper waterblock absorbing aluminum: http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...waterloop.html Too bad I don't have a picture of the radiator... It probably was all eatten away inside.
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One waterblock was used for a few years in a copper only loop. The other block was used with aluminum for a few years.
Maybe so after a few years, I for one wont be running the same rig as now in 2 years. And with this being such an enthusiasts site, I think the same might apply for alot of others.

Anyway, my question has been answered now so lets leave it there (unless theres somethin ur dying to say)

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Maybe so after a few years, I for one wont be running the same rig as now in 2 years. And with this being such an enthusiasts site, I think the same might apply for alot of others.

Anyway, my question has been answered now so lets leave it there (unless theres somethin ur dying to say)

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Ask around... I can't think of any reason to mix metals in a loop. Also, aluminum reservoirs is a gimmick. A radiator is vastly better at cooling so might as well use that for cooling.
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It is called galvanic corrosion. The aluminum will eventually be "eatten away" by the copper. You can reduce the rate by adding anti-corrosives. However, this will alway lower your performance.

Here is an example of a copper waterblock absorbing aluminum: http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...waterloop.html
Pretty much all aluminium parts used in watercooling are annodised (including XSPC reservoirs). This stops the aluminium being eaten by water/coolent and
attacking the copper (as already mentioned by numerous people in the thread).... That guy even took apart his loop and showed us the inside of his res and suprise suprise, no corrosion!

Also, when were those pictures of the 2 waterblocks taken?

I was talkin to a friend earlier who said that he'd seen pics similar (or the same) and that they were old... which makes me think that the "results" you linked to could well be out-dated.

I call them results but then that would make it sound as though a test was run to find an answer as to whether copper and aluminum blocks should/ shouldn't be used together......Only with the lack of specific detain given in that thread I hardly think it deserves the word results.
    
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