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Hey guys!
Trying to get some cooler temps out of my WC system, right now it's a little toasty; I know it's almost the middle of summer but, it's still a little too hot for my liking

Here is the Radiator I currently Have: HW Labs Black Ice Pro II
And I have two of these fans in pull config. on the back: SILVERSTONE FN121 120mm

Now my questions is what would I benifit more from:
1) Getting a new Rad. Probably the Xtreme series for cost: Black Ice Xtreme II

2) Get four higher CFM fans in push/pull config; was looking at these: SILVERSTONE FM122-B 120mm

or 3) Just add two more of the same fans I have to setup push/pull (will be the cheapest but, probably produce the least performance)

Any suggestions or comments appreciated! TIA!


EDIT: Please don't say 1+2, I know this would be the best but, I'm trying to keep it under $50
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What are your temps... CPU and ambient.
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Get a small ac unit for the room, it will do more for cooling
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post #4 of 13
my guess would be add higher cfm fans, but i dotn' think that alone will get your temps alot lower, some lower yes indeed, but probably not what you're looking for.

but lowering your ambient temp would probably do better.


but if i were you, i would add higher cfm fans, and lower the ambient temperature.
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What are your temps... CPU and ambient.
Pic is in sig but, vcore @ 1.46 = 35c Idle and 54c load (will sometimes jump to 57c)
Ambient temp is ~26c
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The BIX works best with 100+ cfm fans a 240 with 4 of these in push-pull would be a good set-up as long as your ambients aren't just sky high...Use a shroud to thats good for a couple more C...

These are the ones I used on my BIX the 120x38mm fans have a higher air pressure and i think they scavenge air through the rad better...

...http://www.petrastechshop.com/12x38sukddob.html
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The BIX works best with 100+ cfm fans a 240 with 4 of these in push-pull would be a good set-up as long as your ambients aren't just sky high...Use a shroud to thats good for a couple more C...

These are the ones I used on my BIX the 120x38mm fans have a higher air pressure and i think they scavenge air through the rad better...

...http://www.petrastechshop.com/12x38sukddob.html
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Thanks Ira, didn't see those fans when I was looking through Petra's; and I have a Pro right now, not an Xtreme.

Do you think I should upgrade to the Xtreme and get four of those fans, or stick with the Pro and get four?

Right now I only have $50 to spend so I was trying to decide what to do? I could get the Xtreme but, I wouldn't be able to get four high CFM fans for it for another couple weeks. Or I could just stick with my Pro and get four higher CFM fans.

How much better does the Xtreme perform over the Pro?
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A BIX will cool a lot better then a BIP with high cfm fans...One way you could do it that wouldn't cost you any extra is to get the 4 fans and if that doesn't get you cool enough get the BIX later on and you will already have the fans for it...A BIP will perform better with higher cfm to...


...http://www.overclockers.com/articles1163/
Black Ice Pro III Radiator Review
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...One way you could do it that wouldn't cost you any extra is to get the 4 fans and if that doesn't get you cool enough get the BIX later on and you will already have the fans for it...A BIP will perform better with higher cfm to...


...http://www.overclockers.com/articles1163/
Black Ice Pro III Radiator Review
Good call, I think that's what I'll do then
And thanks for the link.
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Good call, I think that's what I'll do then
And thanks for the link.
NP...Those fans don't really seem loud to me but some guys say they are...If noise bothers you you might want to just try out 2 of them at first...Those and the 115cfm Panaflo are my favorite rad fans I have 8 of them going full blast all the time on my 480 GTX....

A shroud will help your temp's to..

...http://www.overclock.net/faqs/118766...ce-shroud.html
How To: Build A Performance Shroud - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net
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