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My advice? Go the cheap AMD route and spend the savings there on more GFX card and/or monitor resolution.

Now before anyone says one freaking word about 'bottleneck' please click the link in my sig about bottlenecks and peruse the screenie attached on the following post for build ideas.

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k is it better to go with a 3600 and a fan or another x2 with fan price included for under 100 bucks or so?
    
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Either the AM2 X2 3600+ or X2 4000+ Brisbane should hit 3G OCed on the stock retail cooler... higher with a better FHS because you'd be pushing the cooling capacity of the stock FHS. The 4000+ offers a higher multiplyer for a little more flexability in OCing at 10.5 where as the 3600+ uses a 9.5 multiplyer.

That 3600+ and RAM combo is GREAT though
    
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overclock E4300 for gaming won't make any different, AM2 X2 3600 does make a HUGE different when overclocking it
WAHT?!?!

EDIT: Im sure you would know from experience. everything i have ever read about the e4300 says it goes to 3 ghz. SUPPOSIDLY 3ghz on a C2D= 4ghz on an amd

so WHAT-EVER!

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Either the AM2 X2 3600+ or X2 4000+ Brisbane should hit 3G OCed on the stock retail cooler... higher with a better FHS because you'd be pushing the cooling capacity of the stock FHS. The 4000+ offers a higher multiplyer for a little more flexability in OCing at 10.5 where as the 3600+ uses a 9.5 multiplyer.

That 3600+ and RAM combo is GREAT though
x2 3600 i used can hit 3ghz on a sempron stock cooler that is made out of aluminum. and it was at 45c full load

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x2 3600 i used can hit 3ghz on a sempron stock cooler that is made out of aluminum. and it was at 45c full load
WOW, no kidding! That is sweet!
    
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If you get the 3600, thatgives you more money to spend on better RAM and motherboard, meaning higher overclocks and better performance. I got my CPU to 3 GHz on the stock air cooler, and Shifty hit 3.1 with his. I would say a 3600 complete rig, for a low budget, is better than an E4300 complete rig for the same budget.
    
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WOW, no kidding! That is sweet!
I passionately nick-named it the 'computer of improbability', because at first CPU-z said i did 3.1ghz at 1.300 volts lol.

problem was everything was greyed out, so i was like F IT!

one sec im gonna get the link to it....

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WAHT?!?!

EDIT: Im sure you would know from experience. everything i have ever read about the e4300 says it goes to 3 ghz. SUPPOSIDLY 3ghz on a C2D= 4ghz on an amd

so WHAT-EVER
CPU, for gaming, isn't as big of a deal as GPU or RAM. I would say the smarter thing to do is to get a "lower end" CPU, and use the money save to upgrade the RAM and graphics card better.

Say his budget for CPU/Mobo/RAM is $300.

AMD

CPU: Shifty's 3600: $55
RAM: G Skill HZ: $105
Mobo: ASUS M2N-SLI: $135
Total: $295, with great RAM, a proven overclocking CPU (by experience, not heresay) and an SLI motherboard

Intel

CPU: E4300: $117
RAM: Super Talent: $77
Mobo: BIOSTAR P965: $105
Total: $299, with pretty low-end RAM, a CPU with a luck of the draw stepping, and the cheapest decent OCing board out there (with no SLI, to boot)

The choice is, IMHO, fairly obvious, given the minuiscule difference in performance of the E4300 vs the X2 3600+ The E6400 only beats the X2 3800 by an FPS score of 121 to 110 in FEAR, and the performance gap between those 2 chips is probably larger than the gap between the 3600 and the E4300.
    
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http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=208900

Here is a link to where my 3600+ x2 is completely stable. I have an evga 590 sli board, I do use a Zalman 9700 cpu cooler but I picked it up off ebay its refurbished but was only $37 shipped. I can get it to boot all the way up to 330 fsb which is like 3.16ghz and runs/benchmarks but if you prime95 it, it will fail.
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omg so 3600 plus decent board and ram= 3 ghz stable?
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