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Athlon X2 3800+ Toledo O/C problems. Help Please.

post #1 of 28
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First off i was wondering if burning in a CPU is beneficial and whats the best way to do it.

Right now im Running Athlon 3800+ x2 Toledo @ 2.77ghz CorsairXMS DDR PC3200 3GB(2x1GB 2x512MB) @ 220mghz. Mobo is MSI-K8N Neo-4 Platinum.

Im really at a stand still here. My full load at 2.77ghz arent even reaching 42oC and are about 33oC idle. i have tried setting down the ram multiplier to 133 and upping the FSB it just reboots. I use a 1.56 vcore to run the 2.77ghz. Do you think it is my CPU holding me back or my MOBO or something else? i know i can set the ram FSB to 133 and be able to get to 2.9ghz easy without breaking the rams limit. But my mobo wont let me change the multiplier any higher then 10x

Im trying a burn-in that my friend suggested right now, but i dont think it is being done right. Im running my 2ghz cpu at 1.2ghz with the vcore at 1.09 running various stress tests.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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post #2 of 28
i would say to set it as high as it will go, THEN let it sit.

also, i found that changing my PCI-e frequency between 100 and 101 helped my overclocks a LOT!

EDIT: let it sit overnight or whatever, drop it down about 10 mhz, then go up one FSB at a time. Got my sempy a 1.2ghz overclock doing that
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post #3 of 28
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your ram is what kills me, im at pc3200 and i think that might be some of my barrier, but i can boot it at 133 and set cpu to 280FSB but it wont boot into windows over 2.7ghz whether i use 133 or 166 ram timings
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Welcome to OC.net. I think many here would have resp[onded quicker if you filled in your rig specs. To do so: click on USERCP atop page, then click on EDITSYSTEM on the followup left toolbar and fill in the blanks. When you post, your rig hardware will be on auto, where we can help analyize and help the prob.
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Updated info sorry about that, new to forums
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here is my current barrier. I can turn ram down, but cpu doesnt like being stable over anything 2.8ghz
It cant be cooling because it is running at 44oC full load
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post #7 of 28
I would say that you are probably around the max overclock for your CPU.

As a guess I would say you have one of the lesser steppings which top out at 2.6-2.8GHz.
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post #8 of 28
wats you voltage? have you tried lowering your and ram and hyper thread link?
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my voltage to keep a stable 2.8 is a whopping 1.62 i have lowered ram from 200 to 166 to 133, and HT link from 5 to 3 still none of those will let me past 2.8 no matter the settings they are on (except 200mghz ram at 1:1)
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post #10 of 28
then im guessing you have maxed out you cpu still a not bad of an overclock you have there
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