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post #11 of 27
Ahhh... it has been repeatedly shown that multiple pumps will not affect have a major temperatures effect in water cooling. You just need to make sure that the flow rate is adequate. Once it reaches a over 1.5gpm amount, any additional flow will barely affect anything. Basically, the premise of another pump is wrong.

Here is some evidence: http://www.overclockers.com/articles1163/
.5gpm to 1gpm yield a performance increase of 27%, 25%, and 25%
However, 1gpm to 1.5gpm increase performance by only -2%, 4%, and 4%.
There are other articles on this topic. More pumps means more heat dumped into the loop which will eventually outweigh additional flow benefits.

Who uses a flow meter? Flow meters reduce performance for no gain. Also, who says water cooling will leak. Many users are fine now even after years. Don't forget years ago, WC was not so mainstream with as good quality retail components.
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The double pump setup was of course including a second 360 rad.

:-) Double pumps for the same loop with good airflow...yeah I don t need to calculate gpm or check threads, I figured it out!

You re smart, so you get my point:
If put enough dollars in your build you ll get results. You start and if not satisfy with temp, you custom. That s the great advantage but not if you have a tight budget.

Now the guy has a 200 USD budget. And for this IMO you won t beat the Eliminator (maybe thermalright 120 by Air...). If you get the Freezone at 260 USD you can reach 3.6ghz - 3.7ghz stable. The Freezone for 60 more dollars can handle an OC of Kentsfield, it was not made for but it works (second revision for Quad will be release soon). Also if he doesn t like it he can refund the whole (not as complicated when everything is appart, with a modded case for poor results).

You missed my point with flow meter... I mean for a custom WC loop if anything go wrong there is nothing which will prevent it.

A system able to stop the rig when flow meter is extremely low would do that I guess. But you assume that it will never happen, leaks are not always for the others.

In the other hand, TEC have a condensation issue especially in humid countries...But that s why the chip is there. We have 90percent humidity during summer here but I never had issue (phase is a different story).

TEC Coolit performance depends a lot on how you prepare the airflow of your rig and how you apply the system. Some users have troubles for some it s working great.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?...ghlight=coolit
    
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I owned the Freezone and I found it adequate to cool an OCd Quad, up to 3.5-3.6 (1.575v) range only. As for a C2D the Freezone handled my e6600 up to 3.8 (1.59v).

I would recomend a freezone for a C2d. However, you can get a few more degC buy putting together a custom package yourself with less $.

I returned it because I wanted to WC my GPUs.
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post #14 of 27
Interesting coincidence, Tom's hardware did a comparison testing of the coolit coolers against a watercooling setup (koolances' exos2) today.

Comparison of Coolit vs Koolance watercooling

The test used a mildly overclocked 4300 (2.25 Ghz), at load and on low setting, the Coolit units were above 60C while the exos2 was at 49C, on high settings, they dropped the temps to:
Exos2 37
Freezone 40
Eliminator 45

I would hate to see the temps an overclocked quad would create.

Quite a big difference, add in to that the widely held opinion that koolance's watercooling isn't that great and it really points towards a good WCing setup being significanly better than either of Coolit's products. I'm sure someone like Ira-k could put together an equipment list for under $250 that would beat them.
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"n mind, a standard water cooling system is a no-compromise PC cooling system, whereas the Freezone and Eliminator provide excellent cooling without the hassle of water-based systems"
I totally agree with this statement.
IMO a classic WC setup is a better investment than a Exos, that s because I don t like to put things outside the case.
    
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post #16 of 27
Stay where you are, just use air cooled. Not matter what you do you would still need to use fan if you're into overclocking. Using watercooling system is nice, but I wouldn't recommend it since you would want to build another one afterwards and therefore a waste of money. $250+ for a good setup, you would have to do the 24hr leaking test. Once you got everything setup right, you would wonder...$250...hmmm that's enough for a c2d quad-core coming this july 22nd. Then you would think, I'd rather stick with the Enzotech Ultra-X or the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme. And the HSF looks nice, with all the pipes and stuff fans spinning. Just a suggestion, not saying that watercooling is bad, but if you're up for some money burning then go ahead, build one and you'll be thinking of taking it out sometimes to upgrade, and you wont be happy with all the cutting and cleaning that you have to do. Do it if you're really committed to watercooling. Don't do it if it's just about the noise. Just buy some sound dampening material and it would helps lower the sound a little bit.
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I have a Coolit Freezone, its a very good cooler no matter what anyone says, it keeps my E6400 at 12°C stock, and 30°C @3.2, so the new eliminator is better than it, so im willing to bet you it would do fine for your cpu!
post #18 of 27
if its not able to handle the load, put a small rad after the CPU, before the water gets cooled further by the TECs. will save you some power as well.
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if its not able to handle the load, put a small rad after the CPU, before the water gets cooled further by the TECs. will save you some power as well.
1) The Eliminator and FreeZone are closed circuit units. You would have to mod them to add another radiator. Modding will void your warranty.
2) The weak pump won't be able to handle the additional rad.
3) Overloading a weak pump that has been known to die will kill it faster. Voided warranty plus dead pump means an expensive paper weight.
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1) The Eliminator and FreeZone are closed circuit units. You would have to mod them to add another radiator. Modding will void your warranty.
2) The weak pump won't be able to handle the additional rad.
3) Overloading a weak pump that has been known to die will kill it faster. Voided warranty plus dead pump means an expensive paper weight.
i know that. but i'd probably still try it. with a better pump though. (provided i have the money for any of the parts )
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