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Those "orb" stock coolers really shine when you have a LOT of case airflow -- otherwise...not so much.

Make sure your CPU isn't blocked from case airflow by PSU cables, IDE cables, etc.
It's not the stock cooler - it's the Thermaltake Blue Orb II. But yeah, it gets plenty of airflow...
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Have you reseated with AS5? 72 is pretty high, but I think the chip will be able to handle it for a while, especially since you say that it never goes above 62 while gaming. If you think that the IHS was damaged, why not lap it or pop it off?
    
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Yeah I would have to agree with The Duke on this.

Personally I have never found speedfan to report accurate figures for any of my components. (records my NB temp as minus something. for example)

I use this application: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

This program measures the cores temperatures via the DTS (digital thermal sensor) located in each core as opposed to other programs which measure from the socket temperature diode.



This means that the program is suitable for all but the most hardcore phase change cooling methods.


Core temp shows my load temperatures as 38*C on core 0 and 40*C on core 1.
for comparision, smart guardian reports 45*C and speedfan 47*C

I have independantly measured the core temp using a thermocouple which showed the temps to correlate with the figures quoted by Core Temp.

hope that helps

Hey MjrTom,

I just tried Coretemp in both Vista64 (my main OS) and Windows XP, and both give me an error message saying "Driver not found."

What am I doing wrong?
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Ok, Update. I was able to get it to work in XP32.

So here's the deal.

my coretemp temps were actually slightly higher

Lol. But as I expected, one core was significantly hotter than the other, leading me to believe the chip is damaged.

Core 0 peaked at 61C
Core 1 peaked at 74C

Anyway, I'm running stable at ~2.7GHZ on air. I can't complain. I'll just wait until it burns out (if ever) I guess. Thanks for all the help guys!
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I'd say your temps are reporting incorrectly!
What is your BIOS temp? It should reflect 80% or your full load temp.
What? Since when? I get 30C in the BIOS, which is exactly the same as the 30C reported in MBM5 at 0 load and the 28-31C reported by Core Temp. I've never seen anything about this ever before, except from a few people here..

Anyway, I've got my money on 3+ years at these settings, with maybe a slight reduction in your stable overclock.

edit: Dude, the chip isn't damaged. It happens with every dual core out there, at least ones with the IHS on. I just got a 170 that runs at 65/75C for each core at stock voltage. Solution - cut off the IHS - now running at 45/45C at 3000MHz with stock voltage I'd say it's far from damaged
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What? Since when? I get 30C in the BIOS, which is exactly the same as the 30C reported in MBM5 at 0 load and the 28-31C reported by Core Temp. I've never seen anything about this ever before, except from a few people here..

Anyway, I've got my money on 3+ years at these settings, with maybe a slight reduction in your stable overclock.

edit: Dude, the chip isn't damaged. It happens with every dual core out there, at least ones with the IHS on. I just got a 170 that runs at 65/75C for each core at stock voltage. Solution - cut off the IHS - now running at 45/45C at 3000MHz with stock voltage I'd say it's far from damaged
READ, he said it WAS DAMAGED lol, he said the pins were bent, as i recall thats called damage
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Raise your hand if you have ever had a cpu 'die' from excessive temps or too much vcore....anyone....not I.
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Ok, Update. I was able to get it to work in XP32.

So here's the deal.

my coretemp temps were actually slightly higher

Lol. But as I expected, one core was significantly hotter than the other, leading me to believe the chip is damaged.

Core 0 peaked at 61C
Core 1 peaked at 74C

Anyway, I'm running stable at ~2.7GHZ on air. I can't complain. I'll just wait until it burns out (if ever) I guess. Thanks for all the help guys!


Holy crap, that much variation between the two cores at load? Your IHS is definately the problem.
post #29 of 38
The cpu won't just die on you but you will lose oc fast. I had my cpu up to 58c during encoding and after about 4 months I lost about 40mhz of maximum stable oc. (It used to hit 2.87 stable when I first got it)
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40mhz...thats just 'breaking it in'...If you had lost 400mhz...I'd say you were on to something. Now I'll just say, your on something.
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