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Hey everyone, my rig is getting on its last legs and needs a little upgrade to bring it into the new world (and the SM3.0 world ) I've got about $1,200, but I really would like to avoid spending all of it since I'm sure it wouldn't be all worth it. So hopefully I can get out of this without spending more than $800. Unfortunately, the ONLY thing thats not being considered for upgrading is the case. I heart my case

Anywho, on to the possible candidates:

CPU:
E4300 (http://www.directcanada.com/products...ufacture=INTEL) or E6300 (http://www.directcanada.com/products...ufacture=INTEL)

In order to run this CPU, gotta upgrade the Motherboard:
Gigabyte DS3 (http://www.directcanada.com/products...cture=GIGABYTE)

Either with or without CPU upgrade, I need a quieter CPU Heatsink:
Tuniq Tower 120 (http://www.directcanada.com/products...acture=SUNBEAM)

In order to finally get out of SM2.0 (and play R6:Vegas!!!!) I'm going to need a new Graphics Card:
HIS X1950 PRO ICEQ3 Turbo; pricey but silent (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...967&CatId=1560)
EVGA 8600GTS; next gen but not sure how it compares with X1950 Pro in benchies (http://www.directcanada.com/products...nufacture=EVGA)

If I can fit a nice 20" Widescreen into the budget I think it would be great, but I'm not sure if it is worth the price tag:
Samsung 20" Widescreen (http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...0084227&catid=)
Dell 20" Widescreen; not sure about gaming performance, but its actually less than the Samsung.

Those four are what I am mainly considering for my upgrade, but the following are things I'd like to upgrade (or will have to eventually) and I am just wondering if they might be worth it.

Upgrading my RAM would bring me to 3GB of Corsair 667MHz, which might be overkill so it's quite low on my list. (http://www.directcanada.com/products...acture=CORSAIR)

I'm sure this wont fit into my budget, but I'm noticing Windows becoming more sluggish since my harddrive is almost full: Seagate Barracuda 7200.1 320GB (http://www.directcanada.com/products...acture=SEAGATE)

One upgrade that may become quite important is the PSU. I currently have a Ultra X-Finity with 500W and two 12V rails, rated at 18A and 12A, but I understand it doesn't make 30A, hopefully it will be enough to support my upgrade, otherwise I might need to get: OCZ GameXStream 600W (http://www.directcanada.com/products...anufacture=OCZ)



Alright well now that the basics are out of the way, this is where I really need some help! While I would LOVE to get all those upgrades, it would essentially be a new rig, and would cost over $1200, let alone WAY over the $800 tops I'd like to spend. So I'd really like to hear from you guys, in terms of enjoyment of some hard PC gaming and silence from the fans, which combination of these upgrades would bring the best enjoyment from gaming for the money spent. To me, quietness is important as I'd like to keep my computer on 24/7 (hence the Tuniq Tower).

So OCN, to get the most bang from my buck, what should I upgrade?

Thanks alot!!
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dude its like going from a geo to a vette
i heard bad things about ocz psu's if you can get a silverstone psu if its in ur budget. other than it looks very good.
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Scrap both those CPUs and take the E6320 its usually a buck cheaper too. Between the X1950PRO and 8600GTS take the GTS. Its DX10 and said to be god in OCing. Other than that you have a nice new system.
     
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why the 6300 can be better and than 6320.

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Originally Posted by weltall View Post

As for the CPU since your budget allows it do not leave from C2D. Pentium Dual Core really can't reach them. Also if your budget allows it go for an 6300 which costs 50 usd more. I know 6320 has double cache but still..

Old model of 6300
http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL9SA
New model of 6300
http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL9TA
and the 6320
http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLA4U

The old model compared to the other two has Tdiode enabled and Extended Halt power of 22W which supposedly makes the the best OCer amond the 3.

The new model doesn't has a Tdiode and only 12W Extended Halt power which doesn't make them as good OCer amond the 3.

6320 doesn't have either of these and makes them (among the 3) the worst overclocker.

Ofcourse I am not sure that I am absolutely right so I guess someone else has to confirm that.
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hehe... I actually linked to the 6320 but I didn't mention it
4MB cache ftw! Thanks for the advice guys, I just wonder if the 8600GTS' fan is quiet.. hmm too bad I wont be able to fit a 20" in my budget just yet

EDIT: Maybe not 4MB cache ftw! Well I may go with the 6320 just because the 6320 is cheaper than the 6300 anywhere I can find it. And I wont be pushing it too hard!
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Hey one suggestion, get the Asus 8600GTS, its cheaper and performs better than the eVGA one you picked out. I plan on getting this for my budget build: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814121069.

If you want to see how all the Nvidia 8600GT & GTS cards performed check this out: http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=5002
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The Asus 8600GTS is not only more expensive than the EVGA 8600GTS at the only places I can purchase it from, but it uses the reference card heatsink which to quote a review "sounds like a light aircraft"....
The 8600GT however is more affordable and has a different heatsink, although I cannot find any reviews for it yet.
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i heard bad things about ocz psu's if you can get a silverstone psu if its in ur budget. other than it looks very good.
I disagree. My OCZ psu has been great for the past 7 months. I've had no problems at all and a continuous stable voltage. It's very quiet
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About the PSU, would a 500W with two 12V rails at 18A and 12A be able to run a E6320 and a 8600GT(S)?
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About the PSU, would a 500W with two 12V rails at 18A and 12A be able to run a E6320 and a 8600GT(S)?
I am building for a friend something like your PC, a 4300 and a 1950 pro. 4300 consumes the same as 6320 and 8600 gts just a bit more than 1950 pro. Although the enermax I chose for him have 22A on the 2 12v rails... Just make sure you get a good PSU. I usually consider the PSU to be the most important part on my PC. Psu is the cook for al the parts of your PC. It feeds the as long as your PC is on. If the cook is not good then your PC parts will not be as happy. I do not know about the OCZ but I would consider before buying the Ultra. Enermax for ever for the best protections I could find (well second best but we do not have many choices in Greece).
    
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