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So, I've had this 27" CRT HD Ready Monitor from Philips for about 2 - 2.5 years, and I finally want to see HD content. (It's 480p/1080i capable...good enough for me.)

Could someone point me to a good HDTV tuner? I'm not exactly sure what to look for, or buy...I just wan't something so I can appreciate the visuals on my xbox360 games .....and maybe watch some free HD programing on my basic cable ( ).

Is the tuner an external box that just plugs into the AV ports on the Monitor?

Links and explanations would be great!
    
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give me a few minutes all try to find you something
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I'd be inclined to tell you that it's not worth it, considering your monitor's resolution. 1080i is going to make you think ill about Hi-DEfinition and 480p is EDTV at best.

However, if you're at-all adamant about enjoying Hi-Def content with limited resolutions, you could easily go through your cable company and get a Motorola DVR. This way you can watch HD movies and such.

www.avsforums.com is a great place to begin, alotting a plethora of information on DVR's, PVR's and all that good stuff.

In truth? A very good DVD player with YbPbR/RGB/Component outputs paired with your HD-Ready monitor will give decent results in Standard Definition for ya.

Those are me thoughts!
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I'd be inclined to tell you that it's not worth it, considering your monitor's resolution. 1080i is going to make you think ill about Hi-DEfinition and 480p is EDTV at best.

However, if you're at-all adamant about enjoying Hi-Def content with limited resolutions, you could easily go through your cable company and get a Motorola DVR. This way you can watch HD movies and such.

www.avsforums.com is a great place to begin, alotting a plethora of information on DVR's, PVR's and all that good stuff.

In truth? A very good DVD player with YbPbR/RGB/Component outputs paired with your HD-Ready monitor will give decent results in Standard Definition for ya.

Those are me thoughts!
From what I've read, 1080i (essentially 540p) is marginally better than 720p for movies, because there are more pixels on screen at any given time. However, the lines are interlaced, so there are 30 alternating lines on screen every second....as opposed to 720p's 60 constant lines.

Apparently 720p is better for quick movement (gaming, etc...), and 1080i is sufficient for the 24fps capped movies, and still images.

Minus my babbling, how much would the Motorola DVR cost? And would it work with my 360 in high def?

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From what I've read, 1080i (essentially 540p) is marginally better than 720p for movies, because there are more pixels on screen at any given time. However, the lines are interlaced, so there are 30 alternating lines on screen every second....as opposed to 720p's 60 constant lines.

Apparently 720p is better for quick movement (gaming, etc...), and 1080i is sufficient for the 24fps capped movies, and still images.

Minus my babbling, how much would the Motorola DVR cost? And would it work with my 360 in high def?

Sorry for my nub-ness
You're not incorrect. 1080i is basically 540p, as it's 540 lines of resolution interlaced to create the 1080 field. However, at the same time, your monitor is the "bottleneck" here. Where as it more than likely does not have more than 480 lines to display even 540p properly. I am probably wrong on this, though.

Also, your research again on 720p for movies, games, etc is close to accurate. The second dependant on both 1080i and 720p optimal performance is the content. 720p can also be better for movies IF the content, when created, were specifically for hi-definition television display. A lot of time, most of the time-- and with AppleTV now on the market and hi-definition delivery options expanding this will change-- it's for theatrical release.

I certainly would not discourage you to venture into Hi-def with your current monitor as long as you've done the research and aren't expecting phemonenal results. SOunds like you have, and so it's deifnitely going to be fun for ya!

THe Motoral DVR shouldn't run too much, that's gotta be searched. I'd definitely check www.avsforum.com for things like that. Your X-bOx 360, however, should be able to take advantage of VGA, YbPbR/RGB/Component INput, or Digital inputs if your TV has either of those.
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THe Motoral DVR shouldn't run too much, that's gotta be searched. I'd definitely check www.avsforum.com for things like that. Your X-bOx 360, however, should be able to take advantage of VGA, YbPbR/RGB/Component INput, or Digital inputs if your TV has either of those.
Thanks, I'll check those forums.

My current TV DOES have the Component input (green, red, blue wires?), but I don't think the monitor can actually recieve HD content without some sort of DVR or HD tuner thingy...

I tried to enable 480p and 1080i through my xbox dashboard, but it doesn't recieve a signal.
    
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Thanks, I'll check those forums.

My current TV DOES have the Component input (green, red, blue wires?), but I don't think the monitor can actually recieve HD content without some sort of DVR or HD tuner thingy...

I tried to enable 480p and 1080i through my xbox dashboard, but it doesn't recieve a signal.
That's quite strange, because what built-in tuner means is that you can't recieve Hi-Definition signals through the actual Cable Wire. Your X-box 360 is it's own Hi-Definition content peripheral and over Component you should be able to access 480p or 1080i.

What might be good to check is if the television is in fact Hi-Def ready, and not Extended Definition (EDTV) ready. That might be the issue.
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That's quite strange, because what built-in tuner means is that you can't recieve Hi-Definition signals through the actual Cable Wire. Your X-box 360 is it's own Hi-Definition content peripheral and over Component you should be able to access 480p or 1080i.

What might be good to check is if the television is in fact Hi-Def ready, and not Extended Definition (EDTV) ready. That might be the issue.
Theres a sticker on the front of the TV that says HDTV monitor, and another sticker that says HD Ready (no internal tuner).

I guess HD ready means, "LOL, sucker, you bought a $500 SDTV, and you need a $300+ DVR/Tuner to view HD content."

I wonder if a local place like Best Buy, or Circuit City would carry a relativley cheap box that would help me display HD.
    
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That's a good idea. Try your local BB or CC. I'm going to Best Buy today to look at a Samsung 46" LCD that I think I want to buy to replace the 42" Westinghouse I just got, I'll check on HD tuners as well.

480p or 1080i, if your monitor can accept and adisplay these signals, should be accesible through your Xbox. I don't understand why it wouldn't be.

Silly question: is your television widescreen? Can you post the model number?
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That's a good idea. Try your local BB or CC. I'm going to Best Buy today to look at a Samsung 46" LCD that I think I want to buy to replace the 42" Westinghouse I just got, I'll check on HD tuners as well.

480p or 1080i, if your monitor can accept and adisplay these signals, should be accesible through your Xbox. I don't understand why it wouldn't be.

Silly question: is your television widescreen? Can you post the model number?
Nah, its just 4:3...I'll go look up the model number right now (If I can find it.) Theres a button on the remote that changes it from 4:3, to 16:9, though...
    
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