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Here is a list of my parts!

Now what I need is solution to water cool this beast!

Money is no object...........Ill take suggestions on parts as well!

BTW - The purpose of this system is 2 fold ----- personal gaming and server though not full time on either!

QTY. ITEM:

1 Thermaltake Armor Extreme Edition VA8004SWA Super Tower Case

1 Tyan Thunder n4250QE Quad Opteron 8000/ nForce Pro 2200/ DDR2/ SATA2/ RAID/ V&3GbE Server Motherboard

4 AMD Opteron Dual-Core Processor Model 8218 1207pins, OEM

4Hitachi 1TB HDS721010KLA330 SATA2 U300 7200rpm 32MB RoHS Hard Drive

1Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5000 w/Bluetooth Hub Laser Mouse & Keyboard Combo

8Kingston KVR667D2E5/2G D2-667 2GB ECC Memory

1Samsung SyncMaster 320PX 32 inch 1000:1 8ms DVI LCD Monitor

1Altec Lansing VS4221 3pcs w/Remote Control Gaming Speaker System

1Cooler Master RS-A00-EMBA Real Power Pro 1000W ATX/EPS 12V SLI Power Supply

1Symantec Norton Internet Security 2007, OEM

1Microsoft Windows Server Standard 2003 R2A x64 Edition

1Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate, OEM

1APC Smart-UPS SC SC1500 1500VA 2U Rackmount/Tower UPS System

6Generic 39 inch Right Angle Serial ATA Cable

2Lite-On LH-20A1L-06 LightScribe 20X DVD+/-RW SATA Drive

2BFG nVidia GeForce 8800Ultra Water Cooled Edition

1Supermicro AOC-LPZCR1 Low-Profile All-in-One Zero-Channel RAID Card
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So you already have the video card blocks, and I'm guessing the CPU.

For those three (CPU + 8800x2) you better have at least a good triple rad with High cfm fans, the question becomes what is your preference on noise. Are you ok with 100cfm fans, or do you want silence? You might also consider running two loops, the 8800s will run hotter than the CPU, so separating them out wouldn't be a bad thing.

For a single loop (noise not a problem), you might want a 480gtx rad with some sunon or panaflo 100cfm fans.

For two loops, you could run two triples or two doubles, with two triples you could use lower cfm fans.

Money no object I would get:

2x Thermochill PA120.3
Thermochil rad shrouds
Fans of your choice, 38mm fans do a bit better with a good shroud.
d-tek fuzion CPU block
T-lines instead of reservoir (Cheaper but I like them better)
Tygon Silver Tubing 7/16" or 1/2" ID
Petra Top DDC pumps x2
    
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CPU Blocks - Swiftech Apogee GT Compatible with Socket F

The GPU's are the water Cooled Editions so they are good to go!

Tubing 3/8 ID

Pump - Eheim 1260 with 600GPH Flow

Rad - Black Ice GTX480

Res - DD single 5 1/4 Bay Style

Additives - Zerex Super coolant and Fluid XP+

Now my plan is to buy 2 of each and use one on the CPU's and 1 on the GPU's!

PROBLEM!!!!!!!!
Where the heck do I put it all??????????


Suggestions for a Box? Case? Housing of some sort???? also I cant find a shroud for the Rad!

Also, What size fans to use on the Rad?


This is what I have in mind

[img=http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2623/watercoolingdesigndp2.th.jpg]

Forgive my pitiful attempt at drawing I hope its pretty clear what I am trying to do!


I was thinking housing the water cooling system in this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811163057
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Good question on where to put it all, you might consider one of those Lian Li cases just posted...
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21901

Or like you were already planning, just have a separate enclosure for your water cooling gear...have seen that many times.

I see what you were saying on the Socket F compatibility, the GT is a good block, you really don't see more than a few degrees difference between the top blocks anyway. The Fuzion is one of the better retail blocks, and a local member here is making custom ones (V8 stinger) that is reall good. You might check that out, he could make you some custom all copper ones:
http://www.stingerwaterblocks.mysite.com/

Fans.
If you're going for the GTX series, you should consider 100+cfm fans. These would be one of the better ones, but anything 38mm would be good:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12x38pafbhyw1.html

Pump:
That Eihm has good flow, but the head isn't anything special regarding to head capacity 12ft of head is not much better than a D5/MCP655.
These are the best 12v pumps for good head (20ft), some people will even run two in series:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/laddcwpeddto.html
FYI if you want the "Mega Pump", here you go, but you need a 24V PSU to power it:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/iwrd24vdcinp.html

As far as your loop drawing, I'm not following everything there, but I wouldn't split using Ts like you have shown. I would run everything in series, just need the reservoirs right before the pumps and preferrably the cpu after the radiator. I guess I don't understand socket F all that well, is it 4 CPUs?
Something like:
Loop1
Reservoir1>pump1>Radiator1>CPU1>CPU2>GPU1>Reservoi r1
Loop2
Reservoir2>pump2>Radiator2>CPU3>CPU4>GPU2>Reservoi r2

Oh and I wouldn't use 3/8" tubing, even though it doesn't make a huge difference in pressure loss, I really like 7/16"ID 5/8"OD Tygon R3603. It's just right, routes fairly easily, and fits 1/2" fittings great.

Hope that helps..
    
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why mix Fluid XP with Zerex ??? that completely takes away the "non conductiveness" of the Fluid Xp.....if youre gonna mix anything with Zerex , just use distilled water....
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I do not plan on mixing the fluids just buying it!


And yes!
Loop1
Reservoir1>pump1>Radiator1>CPU1>CPU2>GPU1>Reservoi r1
Loop2
Reservoir2>pump2>Radiator2>CPU3>CPU4>GPU2>Reservoi r2

So basically forget the T's ok done ty !
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamme View Post
I do not plan on mixing the fluids just buying it!


And yes!
Loop1
Reservoir1>pump1>Radiator1>CPU1>CPU2>GPU1>Reservoi r1
Loop2
Reservoir2>pump2>Radiator2>CPU3>CPU4>GPU2>Reservoi r2

So basically forget the T's ok done ty !
Cool, be sure to post some pics and share a build log as you get to the assembly point, that's sure to be an extreme system you'll have there.
    
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I will be sure to its a joint effort between a few friends of mine its only a theory at the moment !
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You dont need a 480mm radiator , a 360 will be fine for that heatload and be much more convinient , You can mount it on top of the case and either drill holes for tubing or have the barbs hang off the backside and go in through a PCI slot or something , pump / res can go in your 5.25" bays
    
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