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Ah, I understand. I am trying to isolate things one at a time. Right now, I know my ram would run fine up to 1066mhz at the current voltage and timings. Now I want to find out where I can put my cpu and I target the gpu next.

By the way, I read your thread on 1.7 Holy crapola!!!

What do you think? Too much v at this speed (24a stepping)?
I'm pulling my mobo tomorrow to add some cooling, I slap my E6700 in and tweak on it some. I'll post some results.
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NB volts at 1.40, vcore at 1.3875, ram is fine and definately not the problem. Someone give me a hand will ya'?
I'm not too sure how this will turn out seeing as there's no option to disable EIST in your board for some reason, but you should try raiseing CPU vCore to 1.5v, seeing as you've already tried 1.45v. Your NorthBridge vCore is good for now until you start to get closer to 400FSB.
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I'm pulling my mobo tomorrow to add some cooling, I slap my E6700 in and tweak on it some. I'll post some results.
That's pretty cool, thanks. Which stepping is your 6700?

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I'm not too sure how this will turn out seeing as there's no option to disable EIST in your board for some reason, but you should try raiseing CPU vCore to 1.5v, seeing as you've already tried 1.45v. Your NorthBridge vCore is good for now until you start to get closer to 400FSB.
Pretty wierd on the EIST thing ha? I checked and at idle my multi doesn't drop. I think I'll follow your advise and update bios anyway.

1.45 was at a higher fsb. Running 1.4 now and stable about 1hr and 20min. at 320mhz x 10.
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Pretty wierd on the EIST thing ha? I checked and at idle my multi doesn't drop. I think I'll follow your advise and update bios anyway.

1.45 was at a higher fsb. Running 1.4 now and stable about 1hr and 20min. at 320mhz x 10.
Do be careful with your NorthBridge voltage, you may want to think about aftermarket cooling for it if you take it over 1.55v. I'm pretty sure that reflashing your motherboard again with a fresh BIOS download should fix your EIST not showing up issue as I think EIST may be stuck on AUTO and interfering with your voltages at the moment.

In the meantime I found something you may find useful over at the Hexus forums here.
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Do be careful with your NorthBridge voltage, you may want to think about aftermarket cooling for it if you take it over 1.55v. I'm pretty sure that reflashing your motherboard again with a fresh BIOS download should fix your EIST not showing up issue as I think EIST may be stuck on AUTO and interfering with your voltages at the moment.

In the meantime I found something you may find useful over at the Hexus forums here.
I've read through that post. Also read clunk's other posts, pretty cool collection of info. My bios is almost the same, lol, no EIST.
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Update: Finally have stability at 320mhz x 10 with 1.4vcore. Oh, and EIST not an option when you set your multi on manual, lol...that's where it went.
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Update: Finally have stability at 320mhz x 10 with 1.4vcore. Oh, and EIST not an option when you set your multi on manual, lol...that's where it went.
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Vcore on auto provides no stability at or above 300fsb. Also, I know that eist is supposed to be there but...

Using 0202 bios. 0311 just added the ability to handle more cpu's and 0404 (put out 4 days ago) adds the nb straps.

Way too frustrated at this point. I wish July 22 was here; I'd punt this cpu across the room!
I use the Auto Vcore to get an idea of where I need to be with Vcore.
I find it odd you could not get stable above 300FSB in auto.
Well I installed my E6700 this morning.
What I did was drop my multi to 9, FSB @ 400, set all voltages to auto and set my Ram speed to stock, leave the Ram out of it for now.
I then restarted to check my Vcore in Bios, @ 1.54 in auto, restarted again and went into Windows.
What I do next is open Orthos and test at the Auto settings, see below.
Now I have a couple of options here, since it ran for 5 minutes I could restart and set the Vcore lower manually, it's always best to find the lowest stable Vcore at any speed.
But that's not me, I want more. What I do is stay in Windows and raise the FSB using Systool until it's no longer stable. I raise the FSB 5Mhz at a time and run Orthos for 5 minutes or until it crashes, in this case I got up to 415 FSB before it crashed.
So really I know 1.54 Vcore is good till about 410 @ 9x for 3690 and I can make manual adjustments from there.
When I find that sweet spot with FSB and Vcore in manual, I'll turn my attention to my Ram and Vdimm, NB and voltage.
This is just my method of madness, everyone is different, but in the end we strive for the same result Speed/Stability.
I hope you get a little bit of info out of this, I myself am pretty new to Overclocking. It sure is fun and addicting

BTW my chip is an L623A613

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grunion: That's pretty cool, thanks for the info. Out of curiosity, why do you drop the multi? Have you run benchies on x9 and x10 with the same final speed (ie. 400 x 9 or 360 x 10). From what I understand, you often times loose performance when dropping the multi. Check the link below out. Seems like pauldovi put a lot effort into it. Thanks again.

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grunion: That's pretty cool, thanks for the info. Out of curiosity, why do you drop the multi? Have you run benchies on x9 and x10 with the same final speed (ie. 400 x 9 or 360 x 10). From what I understand, you often times loose performance when dropping the multi. Check the link below out. Seems like pauldovi put a lot effort into it. Thanks again.

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...rclocking.html
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For example. The P5B Deluxe changes from the 1066Mhz strap to the 1333Mhz strap after 400Mhz. Therefore, 400Mhz on a P5B is faster, but less stable than 401Mhz.
Taken from pauldovis most excellent thread.
From my testing I gain the most performance and stability with a 9x multi and starting with 400fsb.
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Hmm..going to have to try this. Thanks.
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Denon AH-D2000 AKG Q701 Grado SR225i Audio-Technica ATH-A900 
Audio
Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 
CPUGraphicsGraphicsRAM
e5700 HD6670 Ceton InfiniTV 4 4GB G-Skill DDR2 1066 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
60 GB Agility 3 (OS Drive) Hitachi 3TB (TV Buffer and Recording) LG Blu-Ray Burner Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorCaseAudioAudio
58" Samsung Plasma DH101 Polk CS2 (Center) Polk Monitor 70 (FL/FR) 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Polk Monitor 60 (RL/RR) Polk Monitor 40 (Surround L/R) Definitive Technology Supercube 2000 Onkyo HT-RC360 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
T9550 G51VX nVidea 260m 4GB DDR2 1066 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
120 GB Agility 3 (OS/Programs Drive) 320GB 7200rpm (VM and Data Drive) Windows 7 Ultimate 1920 x 1080 (came with 1366 x 768) 
Case
Ventilated Bottom of Laptop Housing 
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i7 920 D0 - 3913B269 Foxxconn Bloodrage Sapphire 6950 2GB flashed to 6970 BIOS 6GB G-Skill Trident 2000mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
2x OCZ Vertex 2 160GB in RAID 0 Samsung Swiftech H2O-320 W7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Acer 24" AL2423Wdr Acer 24" P243W DAS Model S & Cherry My 7000 Seasonic 860wt Platinum+ 
CaseMouseAudioAudio
In progress R.A.T. 7 Creative Titanium HD Fiio E9 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Denon AH-D2000 AKG Q701 Grado SR225i Audio-Technica ATH-A900 
Audio
Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 
CPUGraphicsGraphicsRAM
e5700 HD6670 Ceton InfiniTV 4 4GB G-Skill DDR2 1066 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
60 GB Agility 3 (OS Drive) Hitachi 3TB (TV Buffer and Recording) LG Blu-Ray Burner Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorCaseAudioAudio
58" Samsung Plasma DH101 Polk CS2 (Center) Polk Monitor 70 (FL/FR) 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Polk Monitor 60 (RL/RR) Polk Monitor 40 (Surround L/R) Definitive Technology Supercube 2000 Onkyo HT-RC360 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
T9550 G51VX nVidea 260m 4GB DDR2 1066 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
120 GB Agility 3 (OS/Programs Drive) 320GB 7200rpm (VM and Data Drive) Windows 7 Ultimate 1920 x 1080 (came with 1366 x 768) 
Case
Ventilated Bottom of Laptop Housing 
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