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AMD CEO Hector Ruiz took center stage at the American Antitrust Institute National Conference in Washington, D.C. to express his disdain for Intel’s business practices.
“I want to give you an idea of what it’s like to do business day in and day out when you are competing against an abusive monopolist,†Ruiz told attendees. “How it makes no difference whether you are just as efficient – or even more efficient – than they are.â€
“I do not need my fortune teller hat to tell you one truth about which I am absolutely certain,†said Ruiz. “There is no proper or defensible place for illegal monopolies in the 21st century global marketplace... My purpose is not to argue for competitive advantage - we know how to compete. My purpose is to lay out the facts so that law and economics can do their job to protect consumers."
Ruiz did not immediate call out Intel, but rather stated his case first by naming several related companies made possible by the allowance of new entrants. “Google, Microsoft, and computer manufacturers like HP and Dell all owe their existence to the simple fact that competition replaced forced exclusivity and allowed a variety of players to compete and succeed,†he said.
http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+CEO+Spe...rticle7818.htm
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This is asking for a flame war.
 
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Well hopefully people will take such news with some added calm.
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As gamers, we have our choices. AMD or Intel, we choice for ourselves. Who is pressuring us Intel or AMD?

A company is going to by what is going to last and is the cheapest. If AMD has those two things, then Intel will be releasing statements like AMD did...
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Well, the truth is that only Partisan Intel "fanbois" would be ignorant/ refute this...

Intel has been known to be a monopolizer. I mean, its not like they're the only company out there that does that (just a Big one! :|).
Over the years, they've basically had the attitude "take it or leave it" - until AMD came in, Intel didnt give a shat about "bang for buck".
And you know, I think thats perhaps one of the biggest... 'problems' with these Intel fanbois..

They really havent been around long enough (in the whole PC world - no offence) long enough, to understand.
They came AFTER AMD came in, and started saying "hey! you're too dam expensive! - stop taking those ice-cubes in the rear" and provided competition, which drove down prices.
So they came, and saw a company that was apparently a BIGGER, BETTER one, that made wonderfull chips - whopee!
They just dont understand how it was! - HAVE YOU ANY IDEA HOW MUCH A CPU COSTED!

Even lots of Intel's "fanbois" know that without AMD, we would be licking Intel's Arse.
I mean, Intel has some Really brilliant people working within their walls, NO ONE can deny that.
NO ONE, can deny that CD2 was a peice of work!

But thats just a FAINT WHIFFF! of what intel could have been doing over the years.... HAD THEY ONLY WANTED TO. - I thank God for competition.


Thats what competition is for. And I'll tell you one thing, AMD may have started out with good intentions - giving the user more bang for buck,
BUT KNOW THIS - those guys are humans TOO, AND, they are proned to get greedy like most of us are.

If they were to take a severe lead in this RAT race as well - you'd see the prices hiking up again. And AMD taking that same attitude...

Competition is all we consumers should care about.
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Competition is all we consumers should care about.
Amen to that. Indeed competition is needed, otherwise companies wouldnt feel pressured to move forward with new tech and ideas...also lets not forget the price wars !.
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Grim, you hit the nail RIGHT on the head.

AMD for many years made better and cheaper chips than Intel. Intel finally pulled ahead in performance/price with the Core2Duo. Now there's basically no reason to go AMD if you have the money for a $150 processor. This is causing AMD to lose business, and once they're out... who's everyone gonna go with? VIA or Intel? That's a no-brainer.

Now Intel should continue to make quality chips... but they need to get their prices up a bit so AMD can at least get the lower end market. Either way, I'm sticking with AMD until their products just can't compete.
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The C2D was a huge leap for Intel and AMD really hasn't been able to produce something that can compete. In my opinion (flame wars here we go) AMD spent way to much time and resources on the 2900xt which really didn't live up to what was expected. I actually am praying that Nvidia will put there foot in the CPU door and put some hurt on Intel. Who out of us wouldnt buy a Nvidia Cpu (Ati Enthusiast don't count)
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Uhm..

Not me? lol

I sort of agree with you on the ATI part though.

But I think that AMD just got a bit TOO contempt. - and forget just for a second the huge manufacturing capabilities Intel had hidden under its arse..

Intel pulled some out, wiped it off with some tissue, brushed off a bit, sprayed some air freshner on it - and threw it on AMD's seat...

now AMD's stading up, working hard, on something else thats shiny.
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Really this guy is right no matter how much you love Intel. And I have you know, I love Intel.

It is Illegal to try to completely monopolize a sector of an industry, or an entire Industry. This is pretty much what Intel is doing. They are killing off AMD who is their best competitor. Yes, it can be argued that AMD brought this on their selves with bad management and whatnot, but when you roll out the fastest processors ever and then cut prices like madmen, you defeat your purpose for doing it in the first place. Intel could still keep a massive market lead even if they didn't cut prices so rapidly.

AMD was sitting pretty on top of the Pentium series, but then neglected to remember how much more power Intel already had over them. Intel pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and delivered a swift wake-up boot to AMD's head.

I think Intel needs to step back and respect their competition whilst still being a very good competitor. AMD needs to get its management act together and release their successor to the old Athlon 64's.
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