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post #11 of 77
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Originally Posted by Drax View Post
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This pretty much sums up how I feel. Intel could be raking in the dough but instead they are using their advantage to take a cheap shot at AMD and I think it may end up going differently than they expected if they succeed.
post #12 of 77
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This pretty much sums up how I feel. Intel could be raking in the dough but instead they are using their advantage to take a cheap shot at AMD and I think it may end up going differently than they expected if they succeed.


Rofl, I liked how you quoted my post.
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post #13 of 77
Really, it makes no difference what AMDs CEO says, Intel has the advantage, a major one at that, they are lowering prices to compete more with AMDs price/performance deal. They are a larger company, so better ability to produce en masse, and, they have a better processor out atm. So until AMD puts something out to compete, they can complain all they want. It won't help.

I'm just saying what I think is correct, I actually prefer AMD (fanboy if you will) so don't go yellin' otherwise at me.
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post #14 of 77
It's not about speed or efficiency as he says.

I believe even is AMD came out with a processor 24x faster than C2D at the same price more people would go Intel.. This is because most people know about Intel.. Even old grandma's heard of Intel. Intel marketing is one of the best and psh, when was the last time you say an AMD commercial? It wasn't until recently big name OEM's picked up AMD's processors and even so they are on 3600's and 4000's and AMD doesn't make to much off of that.

I was happy to pay 400$ for my FX-62 because the damn salesman lied to me... It helped AMD no matter what.
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And didn't Intel's CEO speak out about AMD's "Illegal Tactics" when their P4s were being blown away by the A64s?
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And didn't Intel's CEO speak out about AMD's "Illegal Tactics" when their P4s were being blown away by the A64s?
Intel was still getting a lot of cash at that time though... So I don't see why? Intel had that HT fiasco which bounced the marketing more and told people this is awesome.. Big name companies like Dell had p4's in their top of the line rigs..
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post #17 of 77
Getting ahead by producing the best product is one thing, but there has been in the past, and still is at this point, some underhanded dealing going on from Intel. I use intel chips, because I get the most performance for my buck at the moment. I will most likely always go for the chip that produces the results at the price I want to pay.

Intel does have the better chip at the moment, and AMD is struggling to regain footing. But even if you are the fastest running in the race, putting rocks in the other runners shoes is a bit low.

Some of my dealings are in industries where kickbacks and "moma dont know" money are a fact of life. Usually in these types of deals, the consumer gets the short end of the bargain. Intel should be able to sell its product without telling there vendors they can have price A, or price A-20% if they refuse to buy from AMD.

I do hope AMD has something up there sleeves, as competition does benefit the consumer. But until then, I have to make sound decisions with my own money, and buy the best bang for the buck.
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post #18 of 77
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“How it makes no difference whether you are just as efficient – or even more efficient – than they are.â€
I wonder, was this how AMD felt those years they were steadily gaining market share on intel?

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AMD has been battling with Intel in the U.S. courts over what it believes to be anticompetitive practices. Ruiz presented the example of his company’s efforts with HP, where the systems builder feared retribution by Intel if it chose to use AMD processors.
If AMD had the manufacturing capacity to fulfill HP's orders I doubt there could be any retribution from intel. Honestly how would they stop fulfilling orders they no longer have ?

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“The IT industry is being held hostage by Intel – a fact that has detrimental effects across the board, and it has gone on for too long,†continues Ruiz. “Customers get hit by less choice and PC manufacturers depend on rebates and "must sacrifice their brand in favour of promoting Intel.â€
Right... Because when you buy from PC manufactures you can really hand pick all the parts down to the 80+% efficient PSU... . PC manufacters are alot like water, instead of seeking the path of least resistance, they seek the path of least expenditure.

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“I think that is a vision we share, as business leaders, regulators, economists, lawyers, and others dedicated to ensuring fair and open competition in the market. And I believe it is our responsibility – not just to the global economy, but to society as a whole – to make that happen.â€
Wow, AMD isn't a Corporation only concerned with profits... Infact if the tables were turned AMD would "raise them up on eagles wings" and then "teach them to shine like the sun". DAAMIT cut the crap already, Hector Ruiz needs to be put to pasture like the broken snyde sniveling dolt he is. Their(AMD's) poor management decisions are the direct cause of their current market woes.
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post #19 of 77
I have a friend of a friend who works for AMD.

When I asked if it was true that the Intel chips are running faster than AMD now he said "They're kicking our asses right now. We poked the dragon a little too hard and it woke up."

Once AMD comes out with the latest thing to beat Intel, things will slide back their way. I can't imagine that they'll run into the ground unless it's from poor leadership since historically, they've made good, successful products.
     
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I wonder, was this how AMD felt those years they were steadily gaining market share on intel?



If AMD had the manufacturing capacity to fulfill HP's orders I doubt there could be any retribution from intel. Honestly how would they stop fulfilling orders they no longer have ?



Right... Because when you buy from PC manufactures you can really hand pick all the parts down to the 80+% efficient PSU... . PC manufacters are alot like water, instead of seeking the path of least resistance, they seek the path of least expenditure.



Wow, AMD isn't a Corporation only concerned with profits... Infact if the tables were turned AMD would "raise them up on eagles wings" and then "teach them to shine like the sun". DAAMIT cut the crap already, Hector Ruiz needs to be put to pasture like the broken snyde sniveling dolt he is. Their(AMD's) poor management decisions are the direct cause of their current market woes.
I wonder, was this how AMD felt those years they were steadily gaining market share on intel?

Looking back, I haven't see AMD's stocks higher than Intels or if higher not too much with the whole P4, A64..
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