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copper oxides and corrodes and turns green...

coolant should not discolor any part of your setup...
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post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by LiNERROR View Post
copper oxides and corrodes and turns green...
In air.

2 Cu(s ) + O2(g ) --> 2 CuO(s )

Copper plus oxygen equal copper oxide. Since oxidation requires oxygen by definition, where does it get oxygen while submerged? It can't just pull oxygen atoms from a stable water molecule. Copper under water does not oxidize nearly as fast as copper in air.
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In air.

2 Cu(s ) + O2(g ) --> 2 CuO(s )

Copper plus oxygen equal copper oxide. Since oxidation requires oxygen by definition, where does it get oxygen while submerged? It can't just pull oxygen atoms from a stable water molecule. Copper under water does not oxidize nearly as fast as copper in air.
"Copper under water does not oxidize nearly as fast as copper in air." But it still Does oxidize... Water can and does carry free O2... and in addition to corrosion and oxidation you also have a chance for electrolysis... all wonderful things you can prevent/reduce to nominal levels with proper coolant...
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I always thought Redline Water Wetter and Water was the best.

Or Zerex and Water.
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post #25 of 29
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I always thought Redline Water Wetter and Water was the best.

Or Zerex and Water.
race cars run water wetter and water because it's much easier to clean up then standard anti-freeze...

and if you go to Zerex's website... specifically... http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=11
http://www.valvoline.com/products/zerexdexcool.pdf

you'll see their Dex-Cool product... this is normally Orange or Red... but not always...

it's *better* then the standard green stuff...

they also have the G-05 coolant... http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10
http://www.valvoline.com/products/zerexg05.pdf


and the original...
http://www.valvoline.com/products/zerexoriginal.pdf


you can see that the different anti-freezes help to prevent corrosion and electrolysis better on different metals...

the 77 heater core is brass... now what are your blocks? copper? or al?
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post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by 3$steak View Post
have you seen better temps as compared to standard pc coolant?
I doubt it

the absolute best fluid for getting low temps is straight water
    
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post #27 of 29
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the absolute best fluid for getting low temps is straight water
uh... no... plain surface tension will prevent water from doing all it can...

and plain water provides NO corrosion protection/prevention

not to mention... if you don't have a sealed loop... or have the slightest bit of contamination... Warm, clean water can quickly become rather funky...
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post #28 of 29
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simple G11 and PT nuke for me
does me just fine...
This is what I run also, mixed with distilled water obviously, and I've had no problems whatsoever.
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thanks for the replies.......i guess ill stick with the green stuff thermaltake sent with the system just to be safe...again thanks Dont be offended if i dont give any reps as i need to re-read the tos so i dont cause any grief with this awsome web site.
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