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Just thinking here and I'm probably terribly wrong, being super-newb and all. With the new Core 2 cpu's (Quad and Dual) hitting within the next month or so, I see a lot of people ready to leap to a new CPU, ditching either their old C2D for a newer G0 C2d or C2Quad.

What about the motherboard?

Again, I'm probably wrong, but a lot of these higher OC's that we're seeing aren't just from CPU upgrading, but chipset upgrading. P35 Asus boards are what we're seeing the current run of great OC's on. Those with lower temps and lower voltages.

Just as well, some of these great OC's (Knitelife's is always immediate) are from the year old processors: E6600, E6420, etc. on P35 boards.

Considering the E6750's advantages are minimal when compared to the tried-and-true E6600... would the wiser upgrade be Motherboard (P35 right now, X38 later) instead of CPU on the same motherboard?

Is it safe to say that you'll still hit familiar walls due to chipset limitations or the walls that exist at the peak of your motherboard's maturity?

I couldn't even POST beyond 3.2ghz on my 965p DS3 (Granted that's Gigabyte, but this is an example). Yet, on the P35 DS3P I was easily able to see 3.6ghz within just about half-an-hour on the Q6600.

Am I just totally off-base here? Thoughts?
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I'd say it's definitely wiser to hold on to the CPU and just upgrade the motherboard, if that's what you're suggesting.

If 945's or 965's didn't require DDR2, I would have gotten a P5B around Christmas to OC my 640 further since it's a cool running chip However, I have NO upgrade path for motherboards unless I go DDR2 at the same time, which just isn't worth it to me now with DDR3 already out.
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Yeah that's what Im saying. In some cases, correct, it wouldn't be ideal without upgrading a host of other items.

However, a lot of the people here are equipped to leap from 965 to p35, for example. It just seems someone looking to get more performance out of the system, and was already equipped with all the necessary hardware, would opt out of a CPU upgrade running 150 - 300.00 and instead pick up a motherboard that'll get more milage out of your existing CPU.

Then you'll be ready, later-on, for a new CPU? If that's your choice.
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Yeah that's what Im saying. In some cases, correct, it wouldn't be ideal without upgrading a host of other items.

However, a lot of the people here are equipped to leap from 965 to p35, for example. It just seems someone looking to get more performance out of the system, and was already equipped with all the necessary hardware, would opt out of a CPU upgrade running 150 - 300.00 and instead pick up a motherboard that'll get more milage out of your existing CPU.

Then you'll be ready, later-on, for a new CPU? If that's your choice.
Agreed, especially if you buy a P35 mobo that has the 4 DDR2 slots and 2 DDR3 slots, that's the ultimate future-proof board. However, I'm waiting for X38 over P35. Should give DDR3 some time to mature and hopefully Penryn will drop by then
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Honestly, I don't see a point to upgrade from a P5B to a P35. If you get a fast computer and it is already at a nice oc and temps are okay why go further. Save and wait... At least that is what I am doing.
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I think its tad foolish to upgrade only one of them. THese two should be changed together. I would say the CPU only if you would have a mobo the can get the latest or at least the CPU you want. Upgrading just the mobo for a little extra performance and to get a newer CPU later is not right. You could always keep collecting money till you reach the money you will need for both and get the latest or again what exactly you want but in one go..
    
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I agree with weltall. I bought my CPU and MB at the same time, to compliment each other.
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I think its tad foolish to upgrade only one of them. THese two should be changed together. I would say the CPU only if you would have a mobo the can get the latest or at least the CPU you want. Upgrading just the mobo for a little extra performance and to get a newer CPU later is not right. You could always keep collecting money till you reach the money you will need for both and get the latest or again what exactly you want but in one go..
I should actually edit the first post to reflect that I mean for Core 2 Duo owners. Of course YOU should upgrade your CPU and MOBO at the same time.

Those who already have Core 2 Duos or Quads have something else to think about.

If you already own an E6600 capable of high OC's, then why invest in a similar chip and not a better board? Same deal with E6400 for E6550. That's what I mean.
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I should actually edit the first post to reflect that I mean for Core 2 Duo owners. Of course YOU should upgrade your CPU and MOBO at the same time.

Those who already have Core 2 Duos or Quads have something else to think about.

If you already own an E6600 capable of high OC's, then why invest in a similar chip and not a better board? Same deal with E6400 for E6550. That's what I mean.
I know what you mean. I think my next purchase would be a better mobo, as I know my e6400 is capable of some high clocks, but my mobo wont let it past 3.4Ghz, and even then its not that stable.
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I should actually edit the first post to reflect that I mean for Core 2 Duo owners. Of course YOU should upgrade your CPU and MOBO at the same time.

Those who already have Core 2 Duos or Quads have something else to think about.

If you already own an E6600 capable of high OC's, then why invest in a similar chip and not a better board? Same deal with E6400 for E6550. That's what I mean.
Ahhh then I will ask something else. By buying the new mobo how much extra MHz are you hoping to win? If it was a compatibility matter and would make your PC more stable I would say go for it but if its for like 200-400 MHz then no. Even with these extra MHz you would not be able to work miracles. Your PC would just go a bit faster and you probably only see it in benchmarks and not in actual everyday handling.

Ofcourse!!!! If you have some extra money and your hand aches to spend them to make your PC a bit better and your able to sell your current mobo for a good price ... even if i said all these... this aching would make even me to update XD. Damn all those good looking PC parts.
    
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