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Wait, is this still a 4x4 type set up with 2 dual cores, or is this actually quad core? I was expecting quadcore, not more stupid dual cores...
    
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Originally Posted by Cheetos316 View Post
If you are right, and giving a very liberal assumption of 40%, that means that the lowest end quad-core is going to be roughly $192 ($320 * .6). That's not that bad considering the Q6600 will be $266. However, the big wild card is still performance and OCability. The Core chips have been OCing so well so I don't know if lower cost and slightly better performance is going to make up for the OC potential of the Core chips.
Based on common assumptions:
On the OCing side... the 1.9GHz chips should be able to do at least 2.5GHz since AMD will be selling one at that clock speed. Since these are server which are usually clocked slower than maximum, I would think a 1.9GHz has the potential to hit 2.7GHz pretty easy. A 40% OC would be nice.
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Originally Posted by pow3rtr1p View Post
Wait, is this still a 4x4 type set up with 2 dual cores, or is this actually quad core? I was expecting quadcore, not more stupid dual cores...
Each chip is a Native quad last time i checked, so 8 cores total
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Each chip is a Native quad last time i checked, so 8 cores total
Nope. It's just two dual cores. It should be two quads...but its not.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...017130006.html
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
Based on common assumptions:
On the OCing side... the 1.9GHz chips should be able to do at least 2.5GHz since AMD will be selling one at that clock speed. Since these are server which are usually clocked slower than maximum, I would think a 1.9GHz has the potential to hit 2.7GHz pretty easy. A 40% OC would be nice.
AMD had to not only delay the launch, but it had to lower the speed of the launch (It was suppose to launch at 2.5Ghz). I think that gives you an idea of how poorly these are going to scale.

Regardless, from the only known benchmarks of these chips, they are slower clock for clock than the Core 2 Quad. How can you figure a $390 chip (2.0Ghz) is going to compete with a $266 Q6600 (2.4Ghz) which is known to scale well above 3.2Ghz.

Really, anyone who buys these chips at these prices has lost their mind.
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Originally Posted by saxahonker View Post
Nope. It's just two dual cores. It should be two quads...but its not.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...017130006.html
4x4 is two dual cores, but barcelona is a true quad core. Lets not get confused.
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Really, anyone who buys these chips at these prices has lost their mind.
thats the key. hopefully the prices are lower. not only do quads (Q6600) slightly outperform at stock...but they also OC more. 3.2GHz is not EASY, unless good cooling is obtained, but 3GHz is for sure

and btw these are native quad cores
    
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Haha, 2 days after my birthday!
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thats the key. hopefully the prices are lower. not only do quads (Q6600) slightly outperform at stock...but they also OC more. 3.2GHz is not EASY, unless good cooling is obtained, but 3GHz is for sure

and btw these are native quad cores
Well obviously the whole "native" thing isn't helping them out so much.

Guys, native quad core doesn't make this chip super special. Sorry.
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1. Inquirer.
2. AMD.
3. LOL!
Assuming you neglect all of the above:
4. Prices


Quote:
Originally Posted by pauldovi View Post
Well obviously the whole "native" thing isn't helping them out so much.

Guys, native quad core doesn't make this chip super special. Sorry.
I think the idea behind native quads is that they would naturally generate less heat and take a bit less power, which is the only problem intel's current processors have (since they're sure as hell not bottlenecked). Plus native quads -> non-native octos. Its just a point in technology we should all be looking forward to see. But then again, 45nm should achieve much better results with power and temperature than native quad.
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