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Really, anyone who buys these chips at these prices has lost their mind.

And how much were C2Ds when they first came out?
    
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Really, anyone who buys these chips at these prices has lost their mind.

And how much were C2Ds when they first came out?
I believe I got my E6400 for around $240 when it came out. And it was fast... In fact, it was faster than anything on the market at the time. And it was still cheaper than the FX60.

But these aren't the fastest. That is why it is nuts to pay that much for them.
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Really, anyone who buys these chips at these prices has lost their mind.

And how much were C2Ds when they first came out?
To be fair, they didn't have any competition so if someone wanted a quad, they had nowhere else to go. Intel got away with charging whatever they wanted, AMD will not have that luxury.
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If the Barcelonas do compete with the C2Ds, or beat them, though, then these prices are comparative to what Intel charged when its CPUs came out. New tech means higher prices for a while, and AMD will eventually drop prices, though they don't have billions in their bank account to help recoup losses in like 3 months like Intel could.
    
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If the Barcelonas do compete with the C2Ds, or beat them, though, then these prices are comparative to what Intel charged when its CPUs came out. New tech means higher prices for a while, and AMD will eventually drop prices, though they don't have billions in their bank account to help recoup losses in like 3 months like Intel could.
But they don't beat Core 2.
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But they don't beat Core 2.
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As a matter of fact, I think I do:

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Cinebench completed the default benchmark in 27 seconds for the 1.6 GHz K10; 17 seconds for the Intel Xeon X3220. The Kentsfield Xeon was 58% faster with a 50% higher clock frequency for Cinebench.



http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7574
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As a matter of fact, I think I do:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7574
First of all, these aren't desktop parts...they're sever chips. Compare these prices to Xeon, otherwise, stop complaining that they're expensive.

Second, just because the only "benchmarks" we have (of cinebench and povray, conducted using an underclocked, and buggy platform) show the Core 2 arch performing better doesn't mean that is going to be the story when we finally see retail ready systems.
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First of all, these aren't desktop parts...they're sever chips. Compare these prices to Xeon, otherwise, stop complaining that they're expensive.

Second, just because the only "benchmarks" we have (of cinebench and povray, conducted using an underclocked, and buggy platform) show the Core 2 arch performing better doesn't mean that is going to be the story when we finally see retail ready systems.
The Xeon 3260 is architecturally identical to its Core 2 Quad cousin. The only difference if how well the overclock.

Do you have any benchmark to suggest other performance or of higher clocks?
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The Xeon 3260 is architecturally identical to its Core 2 Quad cousin. The only difference if how well the overclock.

Do you have any benchmark to suggest other performance or of higher clocks?
you keep posting them as if they were the final verdict. Sure, they're the only benchmarks we have to go on, but two benchmarks that were done on pre-production platforms aren't what I'd call solid info.

And as far as the Xeon goes, I was talking about the price. Are the Xeons on the same level as the desktop conroe parts in terms of price? They're more expensive. Just as Barcelona will be more expensive than the desktop counterparts
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