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Let's start the revolution by getting serious and calling your Elected Officials in Washington and telling them this!:

"I urge [NAME] to make Net Neutrality the law in the new Congress. [NAME] should stand with the public and ensure that that communications technology becomes an essential part of the livelihood of all Americans. In 2006, more than a million people spoke out forcefully in support of Net Neutrality -- the principle that keeps the Internet open, innovative and democratic. [NAME] must stand with us in 2007 to make high-speed Internet services open, available and affordable to all Americans.

I urge the Senator/Representative to work with me to pass Net Neutrality legislation in the new Congress. Thank you."
More effective approach:

"Well, Sen./Rep [Name], what a pleasure it is to see you again. How are things looking for the next election cycle. ...Oh really, well perhaps this [insert large campaign contribution of selected denomination] can help with securing an excellent future. By the way, that Net Neutrality act seems very wise....very wise indeed, don't you think?...."
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subtle yet firm..
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Our government is in need of drastic reform. There are so many crooked people in office, it's ridiculous. Too many people have forgotten where they come from, their greed has overcome their own heart. The White House, in my mind, resembles the pit of bigwigs on those WaMu commercials.
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I'm gonna be a noob here: What's Network Neutrality?
    
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Basically, if you want Page x load at full throttle you have to pay the ISP - if you dont they can legally stop that page from loading, and they can inject adds etc, basically its an extorsion racket so they can screw the customer AND the businesses

Just had a look on the Anti-Neutrality sites, it seems that while this ruins free speech (because an ISP can decide to "bury" a story to its customers) lots of dumb people are fuelled on "Net Neutrality gives you junk mail" crap.

That god i don't live in America, this is disgusting
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Me too by the sounds of it ^^
    
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I can fix this, I have F-16s here at work, which building was the FTC again?
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post #28 of 33
I've read thru the entire thread, and I believe it's safe to say that the consensus here is that 'net neutrality' is a good thing, and the lack of 'net neutrality' is a bad thing.

Here's the bottom line folks - if this 'net neutrality' concept is ever legislated into law, you/me/we the consumers will be subsidizing low cost net access for a whole list of wealthy corporations.

For as long as the general public has been using the internet en-masse, there really hasn't been 'net neutrality' anyway, and it's for more of a functional reason than an economic reason. For a very long time, certain types of traffic have been prioritzed across the internet (i.e., more favorable treatment) at the expense of others. Think VoIP - this type of traffic is given preferential treatment because no one wants to hear half of what the person on the other is saying, just so I can get an e-mail in 5 seconds instead of 6 seconds.

This 'net neutrality' buzz-phrase is just something that these wealthy corporations have concocted to use to whip the public up into a frenzy, so that they can perpetuate this essentially 'free' distribution medium for getting their content to the end user. Think Google, Yahoo, eBay, et al, that pay a fixed fee while dumping ever increasing petabytes of data onto the internet backbone. The major carriers are spending tens of billions of dollars to add bandwidth to handle this increased traffic. Why should you (the consumer) have to pay more so that these wealthy corporations can continue to get what is essentially a free ride? If they use it more than you, shouldn't they pay more than you? One-price-for-all-you-can-eat isn't fair considering the bandwidth intensive applications that have sprung up in the last few years. The carriers will not continue to invest tens of billions of dollars if they have no reasonable expectation of getting a return on their investment. Do you really want to think what a scenario like that would lead too?

All you have to do is look at who the biggest proponents of 'net neutality' legislation are to get a sense of WHY we're even talking about NET NEUTALITY. And, also, look at who funds (PACs, campaign contributions,etc) the politicians that are sponsoring the legislation.

Virtually all of the officials responsible for crafting communications policy have stated that 'net neutrality' is a solution that's looking for a problem. They have also stated that there is no evidence that carriers have done what 'net neutrality' seeks to stop, and that laws currently in place are more than adequate to punish any carrier found guilty of such behavior. In their opinion, crafting this legislation amounts to nothing more than excessive government regulation. The success of the internet so far is due in large part to the fact that government regulation has been almost non-existent. The 'market' has decided how the internet has evolved so far.

What sense does it make for a carrier to do what 'net neutrality' proponents say they will do IF we don't pass this legislation. Limit access to content - charge excessive internet access fees - if a carrier did things like this, how long would they be in business, because you the consumer would vote by taking your business elsewhere.

I could say a lot more, but this post is getting lengthy, and ya'll may not want to hear it.

I'm not a lobbyist, or a 'bought-and-paid-for' politician. I'm an internet access consumer just like you.
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Eh, I don't think anything's going to happen... So far nobody's even tried to take advantage of it.
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Originally Posted by rx7350 View Post
I've read thru the entire thread, and I believe it's safe to say that the consensus here is that 'net neutrality' is a good thing, and the lack of 'net neutrality' is a bad thing.

Here's the bottom line folks - if this 'net neutrality' concept is ever legislated into law, you/me/we the consumers will be subsidizing low cost net access for a whole list of wealthy corporations.

For as long as the general public has been using the internet en-masse, there really hasn't been 'net neutrality' anyway, and it's for more of a functional reason than an economic reason. For a very long time, certain types of traffic have been prioritzed across the internet (i.e., more favorable treatment) at the expense of others. Think VoIP - this type of traffic is given preferential treatment because no one wants to hear half of what the person on the other is saying, just so I can get an e-mail in 5 seconds instead of 6 seconds.

This 'net neutrality' buzz-phrase is just something that these wealthy corporations have concocted to use to whip the public up into a frenzy, so that they can perpetuate this essentially 'free' distribution medium for getting their content to the end user. Think Google, Yahoo, eBay, et al, that pay a fixed fee while dumping ever increasing petabytes of data onto the internet backbone. The major carriers are spending tens of billions of dollars to add bandwidth to handle this increased traffic. Why should you (the consumer) have to pay more so that these wealthy corporations can continue to get what is essentially a free ride? If they use it more than you, shouldn't they pay more than you? One-price-for-all-you-can-eat isn't fair considering the bandwidth intensive applications that have sprung up in the last few years. The carriers will not continue to invest tens of billions of dollars if they have no reasonable expectation of getting a return on their investment. Do you really want to think what a scenario like that would lead too?

All you have to do is look at who the biggest proponents of 'net neutality' legislation are to get a sense of WHY we're even talking about NET NEUTALITY. And, also, look at who funds (PACs, campaign contributions,etc) the politicians that are sponsoring the legislation.

Virtually all of the officials responsible for crafting communications policy have stated that 'net neutrality' is a solution that's looking for a problem. They have also stated that there is no evidence that carriers have done what 'net neutrality' seeks to stop, and that laws currently in place are more than adequate to punish any carrier found guilty of such behavior. In their opinion, crafting this legislation amounts to nothing more than excessive government regulation. The success of the internet so far is due in large part to the fact that government regulation has been almost non-existent. The 'market' has decided how the internet has evolved so far.

What sense does it make for a carrier to do what 'net neutrality' proponents say they will do IF we don't pass this legislation. Limit access to content - charge excessive internet access fees - if a carrier did things like this, how long would they be in business, because you the consumer would vote by taking your business elsewhere.

I could say a lot more, but this post is getting lengthy, and ya'll may not want to hear it.

I'm not a lobbyist, or a 'bought-and-paid-for' politician. I'm an internet access consumer just like you.
Obviously I'm not the only one reading the small print. Good for you . My position is stated clearly on the other thread on the subject, and it even comes with a quote .
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melcar View Post
Net Neutrality is like Affirmative Action for the Internet...
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