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Man, all those bugs and those cpu's still rape everything. Imagine if it was all fixed...
Hands up if you don't understand.

They are quick, but it means that if you know how you can write a lovely virus to make your CPU do all sorts of random crap and crash your CPU. Lovely.
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i've had mine for a few months, and never once had a problem
YET, now people actually now what the problem is it wont be long before a 1337 script kiddie writes something for it.

I'm not an AMD fanboy, and i'd get a C2D if i actually needed the extra power, but to have a go at someone who seems to understand a shedload more about the CPU than you do, about a problem you don't even understand seems a bit stupid
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Now i'm just waiting for Intel to recall all the CPU and upgrade it
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Intel users, psychology tells us if you weren't worried you wouldn't be upset and if you wouldn't be upset your posts would sound like your not. And on another basis i thin hackers will jump on this now that it is public knowledge. Lets see how far these exploits take themselves on Core 2 architecture.

Also i find it hilarious that all the Intel users are so quick to try and demean the AMD users the second they think of something to say. That is worth more then the content of the first post in this thread.

Also i don't want to hear Intel users flamming me it will only prove my 1st point more definitively.

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How 'bout your cpu performance blows.. Would that prompt you to return your cpu???
My CPU is more then powerful enough to run any game on the market at absolute maximum settings. Really why waste money on a more expensive CPU with allot of bugs and such. Really does seam like a large waste and gamble.
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Perhaps it's time that we consider adding "being an arrogant fanboy for ANY company" to the list of this you cannot do here. It is really quite annoying for me to come and read through a 4-page thread, seeing about 2 pages of on-topic discussion. If you want to argue, whine, bash other people's systems, and otherwise antagonize our members here, please leave. I will hold no personal grudge with anybody, but do not ruin a discussion for those of us who would like to actually partake in it.
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I love how all the AMD fanboys jump all over this while:

1. I guarantee you can't explain the problem to me.
2. It's no big deal.
I am not an AMD fanboy (I own both a C2D and an X2) but.....

1. The problems they are having seems to do with cache writing. Looks as though the CPU will process the data, and then has to write it to the cache for temp storage while it calculates the next part. Under certain conditions the cache-writer is either mis-firing, or not working all together.

2. This could be a big deal. Such errors like this would cause inaccurate calculation. Each paging error could throw the result off by 1/100000th of a percent decimal place. I know that sounds small, but when you are calculating thousands of pieces of data, that adds up. If such devices were used to calculate whether or not a bridge can hold a certain weight, or if a building can resist wind, this could mean problems, and potentially loss of life. That may sound stupid, but it is reality.

So next time, think things through before you say "It's no big deal." It may not be a big deal to you, but people in my engineering firm see it as a big deal.
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So does this mean they will have to do a recall for all buggy CPU's
the question is not whether they 'have' to, but whether they will. And I doubt they will. Imaging recalling EVERY CORE 2 SOLD!

this includes ALL OEM SYSTEMS with CORE 2. What are people gonna do? buy another core?? of course not! most people who dont necessarily know as much about computers as us will be scared away from intel, and buy their dell's with AMD next time
    
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Knew the C2D's were too good to be true...
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I am not an AMD fanboy (I own both a C2D and an X2) but.....

1. The problems they are having seems to do with cache writing. Looks as though the CPU will process the data, and then has to write it to the cache for temp storage while it calculates the next part. Under certain conditions the cache-writer is either mis-firing, or not working all together.

2. This could be a big deal. Such errors like this would cause inaccurate calculation. Each paging error could throw the result off by 1/100000th of a percent decimal place. I know that sounds small, but when you are calculating thousands of pieces of data, that adds up. If such devices were used to calculate whether or not a bridge can hold a certain weight, or if a building can resist wind, this could mean problems, and potentially loss of life. That may sound stupid, but it is reality.

So next time, think things through before you say "It's no big deal." It may not be a big deal to you, but people in my engineering firm see it as a big deal.
REP+

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My CPU is more then powerful enough to run any game on the market at absolute maximum settings. Really why waste money on a more expensive CPU with allot of bugs and such. Really does seam like a large waste and gamble.
I am not a fanboy, but would like to point out that you are stereotyping all Intel users as stupid and fanboyish. I am not either; and btw, my CPU was the same price as yours ($180) so it wasnt the price.....at the time i got it how would i know about the bugs

therefore, it was not a waste at all because for the SAME price i get more performance; and at the time NO ONE knew about the bugs so it wasnt a gamble either
    
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