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Description of the Microcode Update Device

The Microcode Update device is an interface between the operating system and an Intel processor based on the x86 architecture. This device provides the latest microcode updates for the processor if the BIOS does not already contain this information.

source: microsoft

yet it seems like a ignorable matter, but it's not
That article you just posted is dated to January 2006... before Core 2 even existed.
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I'm not being ignorant about the problem. But I haven't experienced a single issue with c2d, and I know there are many others who will back me up on that.

Question to this community: Has one single member experienced these issues before 2 days ago before they were reported?


It just seems that as soon as this was "known" a lot of AMD guy jumps in and say, "wow look at that" or "intel sux hard". If we want to be professional, lets start by dissecting this problem, and actually seeing if there is a problem at all.


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Maybe I'm not being professional is me not understanding the problem, but honestly, I haven't reported any instabilities with my C2D. Unless provoked by 4.0Ghz syndrome.....
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That article you just posted is dated to January 2006... before Core 2 even existed.
You mean their is a new summary description for Microcode Update Device, Please help me understand
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I'm not being ignorant about the problem. But I haven't experienced a single issue with c2d, and I know there are many others who will back me up on that.

Question to this community: Has one single member experienced these issues before 2 days ago before they were reported?


It just seems that as soon as this was "known" every AMD guy jumps in and say, "wow look at that" or "intel sux hard". If we want to be professional, lets start by dissecting this problem, and actually seeing if there is a probelm at all.
I didn't say anything and I have a AMD machine. You mite want to change that
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You mean their is a new summary description for Microcode Update Device, Please help me understand
Why would they have a Microcode Update Device before the Core 2 Duo?

Perhaps is it becaue the Netburst architecture was also patched by Microsoft?

This Microcode / errata stuff isn't new. It isn't a disaster. It is just normal.

This thread reminds me of the Global Warming myth.
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Perhaps it's time that we consider adding "being an arrogant fanboy for ANY company" to the list of this you cannot do here. It is really quite annoying for me to come and read through a 4-page thread, seeing about 2 pages of on-topic discussion. If you want to argue, whine, bash other people's systems, and otherwise antagonize our members here, please leave. I will hold no personal grudge with anybody, but do not ruin a discussion for those of us who would like to actually partake in it.
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I am not a fanboy, but would like to point out that you are stereotyping all Intel users as stupid and fanboyish. I am not either; and btw, my CPU was the same price as yours ($180) so it wasnt the price.....at the time i got it how would i know about the bugs

therefore, it was not a waste at all because for the SAME price i get more performance; and at the time NO ONE knew about the bugs so it wasnt a gamble either
Yours also runs hotter and has these bugs. Also mine is cheaper in the way of motherboards. Check AMD and Intel motherboard prices Intel boards are more costly. Also my CPU is cheaper. It is 140, yours is 165. And we ,like you said, have the same performance. Seams like the better deal is obvious.

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I'm not being ignorant about the problem. But I haven't experienced a single issue with c2d, and I know there are many others who will back me up on that.

Question to this community: Has one single member experienced these issues before 2 days ago before they were reported?


It just seems that as soon as this was "known" a lot of AMD guy jumps in and say, "wow look at that" or "intel sux hard". If we want to be professional, lets start by dissecting this problem, and actually seeing if there is a problem at all.


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Maybe I'm not being professional is me not understanding the problem, but honestly, I haven't reported any instabilities with my C2D. Unless provoked by 4.0Ghz syndrome.....
You speak of being more mature when you just made a very immature post. Also, the problem does exist and I've discussed the stability issues in detail before theorizing that the CPUs often hang, this accounts for that problem. If there wasn't a problem Intel wouldn't hide what their patch fixed and tell everyone to patch their CPU.
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If I had it my way EVERYONE would use A VIA CPU and have to live with 32KB L2 with Full speed of 1000Mhz


So what? Everyone if fighting over internet News. I mean get if you know what internet news you would know that SOMETIMES It's false. I'm not saying that this is False news but I never heard of extremeTech and there "how Intel CPU's are buggy". Also I must say I had some Pretty sweet Intel cpu's that I would always remeber (286, 386, 486 w/ Turbo and good old Celeron D's that OC like crazy) and they didn't have any Problems that where bugs. Anyways, Over the past year Intel has made some pretty dam good Intel CPU's. Good for gamming, desktop and Mobile. Alot of cell phones and other stuff use intel because of the low voltage and high speeds

On the other hand, They could be doing this to save AMD (IF you think about it). We ALL know that AMD is going down and THEY need to make faster CPU's. So ExtremeTech mite be helping AMD by taking a close look at Intel C2D and posting it's problems. Of course I'm not saying that the AMD K8 is not buggy. It has it's problems (Socket: 754 Going over 1000mhz HT and stable).

Sorry for Spelling, I just typed what I thought
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Intel has made some pretty dam good Intel CPU's
No offense just thought i would point that out.
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No offense just thought i would point that out.
nvm saw it lol, Whatever

AMD has made some pretty Sweet AMD CPUS!
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