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yes i have the 65w verion.
What are your temps like at the speed in your sig?
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Slightly off-topic, but I am planning on overclocking my 4200+ AM2 tomorrow and this will be my first overclock. I plan on keeping the 11x multiplier, and increasing the "fsb" (I know its not actually a fsb on the AMD 64s) by 5-10 MHz until its unstable. But once it becomes unstable, how do you know which voltages to increase, i.e. core, chipset and memory? Do you add like .025 or .05 volts to all, just one, and if so which one? To this newb it seems hard to tell which needs the boost. Any advice is appreciated
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Slightly off-topic, but I am planning on overclocking my 4200+ AM2 tomorrow and this will be my first overclock. I plan on keeping the 11x multiplier, and increasing the "fsb" (I know its not actually a fsb on the AMD 64s) by 5-10 MHz until its unstable. But once it becomes unstable, how do you know which voltages to increase, i.e. core, chipset and memory? Do you add like .025 or .05 volts to all, just one, and if so which one? To this newb it seems hard to tell which needs the boost. Any advice is appreciated
I would divide and conquer. Test the max FSB, the max memory speed and the max CPU speed by isolating each variable.

Drop the CPU and mem speeds way down so they don't get in the way and then raise the FSB until the system becomes unstable. Then bump the RAM speeds up by itself until the system becomes unstable.

Ditto with the CPU, until it becomes unstable or temps get "too high".

Try increasing the voltage in each of the steps (NB, RAM, CPU) once you've hit a wall and see how the system reacts to small increases.

Once you have the max numbers written down, you can plan your attack on getting the max CPU speed while 1)staying within the limits of your motherboard and RAM which you now know, and 2)at what point you will need to increase voltages on each part.

Hope that helps, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I'm new at a64 overclocking as well.
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Sounds like good advice, but I'm a little confused how you isolate each component, as the CPU and memory are tied together so well on the 64s. I know you can alter the cpu:ram ratio, but wouldn't you need to constantly adjust that as you increase the fsb to keep the cpu at the same speed while pushing the ram? And to keep the cpu and the ram at a low setting while you push the mobo, would you just lower the multiplier on the cpu? Sorry I'm such a noob, but I'm sure this talk will help others too.
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Sounds like good advice, but I'm a little confused how you isolate each component, as the CPU and memory are tied together so well on the 64s. I know you can alter the cpu:ram ratio, but wouldn't you need to constantly adjust that as you increase the fsb to keep the cpu at the same speed while pushing the ram? And to keep the cpu and the ram at a low setting while you push the mobo, would you just lower the multiplier on the cpu? Sorry I'm such a noob, but I'm sure this talk will help others too.
Hi, well for the CPU for instance lower the multi down to a point that when you are pushing the limits of the other components the CPU doesn't go over stock speeds.

To take the RAM out of the equation, drop the speed down so that as you raise the FSB the RAM doesn't go over 800MHz (if you have DDR2 800).
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I found a good guide to doing what you suggested here http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=391768. It's a little old but still applicable I think.
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I found a good guide to doing what you suggested here http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=391768. It's a little old but still applicable I think.
Yep, that's pretty much exactly what I was describing. Thanks, bookmarked it.
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right know i am useing a crapey korea heat sink and i get 33 idle and 47 max,but my heat sink is not that much better than stock,if you get realy good air cooling for water cooling and you whant to make 3.0GHz you will problem need 1.65 volt,my computer at 3.0GHz wouldnt boot with anything less than 1.65v.
    
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right know i am useing a crapey korea heat sink and i get 33 idle and 47 max,but my heat sink is not that much better than stock,if you get realy good air cooling for water cooling and you whant to make 3.0GHz you will problem need 1.65 volt,my computer at 3.0GHz wouldnt boot with anything less than 1.65v.
Probably the most stressful thing I do with my computer is games, and so far I haven't seen temps above 48C after an hour of gaming so I think I'm as high as I can go without better cooling. I think this chip can do 3GHz, but as you say, only with water or a really high end air cooler.
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Hey all, so I wanted to update you on this weekend's activities to come.

I just got my hands on an Ultra ChillTEC Thermoelectric Cooler.

Going to install this badboy this weekend (if it fits on my MB and in my case, which is a concern on both fronts) and try for 3.0GHz.

Here's the specs

Wish me luck!
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