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It compares to an 8800GTX; and it's equally priced. The XTX will be up against the Ultra, so, except that to be $600-700.

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They managed to make a graphics card that draws more power then the original 2900 XT? My god are they trying to kill the planet in AMD's research labs?!
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post #13 of 39
Looks good. Too bad I didn't see this yesterday when I bought the 512mb version.

Oh well, I only play at 1440x900 anyways.

I'll wait for the 65nm versions I guess.
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580$ = instant fail.

I was almost excited about an AMD release for once... what a letdown .
Why? Same price as the 8800GTX......oh wait you have no idea what you're talking about, that's right...
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It's a 2900XT with 1GB instead of 512MB. It won't draw that much extra power and it only scores a couple of hundred extra points in 3dmark @ stock so I doubt it's meant to compete with the GTX. We'll see what the XTX offers when it comes out but until they switch to a 65nm process with the higher end cards they will still perform less than expected.

I personally believe ATI is holding back until DX10 releases become more than just one demo every 3 months. Once it moves the high end to 65nm we'll begin to see what we've been waiting for from ATI all along.

P.S. Lierman why do I always see you in the ATI threads bashing them. Don't you have something better to do?
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It compares to an 8800GTX; and it's equally priced. The XTX will be up against the Ultra, so, except that to be $600-700.

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QFT

nVidia fanboys just claim ATI is over charging because they have no idea what they're talking about.

8800GTX = $530 for the cheapest one

It uses GDDR3 Memory, a 384-bit memory bus, and 768 MB of VRAM

1 GB 2900XT = $570 for the only one so far

It uses GDDR4, a 512-bit memory bus, and 1024 MB of VRAM.

I would say that if anything, it's comparatively cheaper then what nVidia would charge for the same card.
    
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It compares to an 8800GTX; and it's equally priced. The XTX will be up against the Ultra, so, except that to be $600-700.

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Why? Same price as the 8800GTX......oh wait you have no idea what you're talking about, that's right...
Few improvements over the original XT in all but memory bandwith, which was good enough to be everything from top to bottom on the nVidia line with the original 2900XT.

Also, two words: Price Cuts.

In a month, actually a bit less, the GTX will be well below 500$.

I don't really understand where all of you are getting the idea that GDDR4 suddenly makes this card comparable to the GTX. It never was before, and it won't be now. As i just said, it already had the memory bandwith to beat the GTX. Adding even more won't all of a suddent make it render a prettier image.


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It's a 2900XT with 1GB instead of 512MB. It won't draw that much extra power and it only scores a couple of hundred extra points in 3dmark @ stock so I doubt it's meant to compete with the GTX. We'll see what the XTX offers when it comes out but until they switch to a 65nm process with the higher end cards they will still perform less than expected.

I personally believe ATI is holding back until DX10 releases become more than just one demo every 3 months. Once it moves the high end to 65nm we'll begin to see what we've been waiting for from ATI all along.

P.S. Lierman why do I always see you in the ATI threads bashing them. Don't you have something better to do?
Oh wait a minute... your argument sounds awful familiar to mine.

Like i said, i was genuinely looking forward to this release because i thought the ATI vendorsmight actually justify the doubling of the memory with a SMALL bump up in price. Take the 8800GTS 320mb vs. the 8800GTS 640mb. Do you see why i'm dissapointed now? .

But then again, this isn't a bashing of ATI as it really is all diamond. ATI in no way supports this card.

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QFT

nVidia fanboys just claim ATI is over charging because they have no idea what they're talking about.

8800GTX = $530 for the cheapest one

It uses GDDR3 Memory, a 384-bit memory bus, and 768 MB of VRAM

1 GB 2900XT = $570 for the only one so far

It uses GDDR4, a 512-bit memory bus, and 1024 MB of VRAM.

I would say that if anything, it's comparatively cheaper then what nVidia would charge for the same card.
Again, this isn't an ATI release, or you could bet that ALL the vendors would have this card. And while you may be right, you MAY be paying for what you get, if the performance isn't all that good who cares? Example: You could easily pay 1200$ for a 8GB kit for a desktop. But seeing as how most applications don't utilize 2GB, whats the point? Sure, the 8GB might not be overpriced. But the performance gains over the 2GB kit (which would be only 200$) aren't justified by that extra 1000$. See where i'm coming from?
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all I see is that Lierman is a fanboy... :/

Talking about price cuts when the GTX has been out for a while and this one just released...
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Well, if 8 GB of RAM is dumb because nothing uses 8 GB, then anyone on this forum with an 8800 is dumb, because nothing uses DX10 yet.

Nice metaphor...
    
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all I see is that Lierman is a fanboy... :/

Talking about price cuts when the GTX has been out for a while and this one just released...
I'm in the pursuit of performance. No fanboyism here.

So what if the GTX has been out for a while? I dont see how thats a valid argument to justify Diamond's release at all.

The only fanboyism i've ever had is for eVGA. And thats is merely eVGA>XFX>BFG etc. It has nothing to do with nVidia vs. AMD/ATI.

Again, notice how i pointed out the GOOD things about the 2900XT. Not the bad.

Edit: sorry almost forgot.

http://www.overclock.net/news-overcl...-review-2.html

First post on this page. Elthemike has the info about how its not official AMD release blah blah blah
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