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Found this at Swiftech forums here:
http://swiftnets.com/forums/viewtopi...2eac11c67a53bb

Thought it was interesting. Of coarse it was done by Swiftech so take it with a grain of salt. I'd like to see the same with 1/2" barbs by an independant party.

It's also not consistent with the findings in this review:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/hardw...e-vanilla.html

Anyhow, it does make me want to bow my fuzion regardless..

    
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post #2 of 26
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I went ahead and bowed the fuzion. Made a thin plastic washer out of some scrap plastic I had lying around, it was probably about 1/16" thick.

Sorry for the bad picture, it was way underexposed:


But after getting the washer the way I wanted, I used a very light coating of Yamabond on the washer, just enough to hold it in place. This is a glue made for putting motorcycle engine cases back together so it should be more than up to the job of getting a little coolant on it.

This is a closup of the washer after gluing it into place:


After putting the block back together, it wasn't an obvious bow looking at the profile, but using a straightedge I could see there was a very slight one. Then I did a quick TIM mount and removal to look at the TIM spread, that on the other hand was very obvious. Rather than having TIM across the IHS, there was a nice circle around the center.

So far it's looking really good, the line is full of bubble and the paste is virgin yet I'm already seeing temps close to what I had before the mount. This bowing is probably worth 1-2C as a guess. I'll report back later when it settles in.

Bowing looks like a good worthwhile mod
    
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Nice mod......I wonder why Intel doesn't fix that crappy socket?








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Thanks!

No kidding, and actually the more I'm watching my new temps the better and better it's getting. My TAT 100% load temps are already seeing about a 3 degree improvement.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210 View Post
Thanks!

No kidding, and actually the more I'm watching my new temps the better and better it's getting. My TAT 100% load temps are already seeing about a 3 degree improvement.

Is that 3C lower with the jet and the bow or just the bow?
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post #6 of 26
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That's just the bow, but I think bowing improvement has alot to do with the shape of your processor.

I think my last lapping job flattened the IHS and my temps actually went up about 1C, now that the fuzion is bowed, all that pressure is nicely concentrated at the core.

But yeah, the nozzle was worth about 1 or 2 and the bow appears to be complimenting that nicely so far.
    
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post #7 of 26
Hey thats really good then Martin...You'll knock off another C or 2 when your TIM cures out to...What your looking at is a 5-7C improvement over stock thats impressive....
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post #8 of 26
In all honesty, I don't trust specs or tests done by manufacturers, regardless of how pretty the graphs look. There will always be bias, no matter who you go to. I look to 3rd party testers, like some people @ XS or users here.
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Your right about that Burn I don't trust them either...And most of the review sites are the same way they will give good reviews for junk just so they can keep getting free stuff.....
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post #10 of 26
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Yeah it's looking pretty good, my temps were always a little higher than average, but I'm catching back up. The combination of the nozzle and bow is making a good improvement for me.

I'm also kind of curious if there is perhaps some sealing going on with this bow gasket, the fuzion stock is just plastic on plastic there, but no gasket...

Yeah there is alot of that marketing stuff going on. What means the most to me is seeing a number of side by side real world tests done with reported idle/load core temps. The thermal performance graphs are completely independant on pumping power, so if a block is more restrictive and the flow rate goes down, that's not captured in that graph.

Anyhow I was most interested in the continued reporting of the bow performance advantage, I'd have to say that seems to be real now.
    
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