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I think you should get your setup going, with stock fan, so you can spend more money on the other parts. Building a better rig with no aftermarket cooling is better than building a slightly lesser rig with a $70 cooler.
Because you can always get the cooler later, and be better off.

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Hm, thanks ;p
Also, I wanted the RAIDMAX case just because it has a really neat and sleek design, while the others don't really have it x_x

Is there a real advantage to getting a case from a different manufacturer? I mean, they don't exactly have clock speeds =p
I believe the case is just as important as every other piece of the PC.
That raidmax would be "ok"... but it's mostly plastic, thin metal, probably sharp edges and bad design overall, inside. And the alien look is pretty cheesy if you ask, well, most people on OCN
What is your budget for a case, in USD$$, so I can look for you.
Better QUALITY over better LOOKS is something all overclockers should look for.
    
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I actually don't think it looks alieny, but I just like how it's all..round-ish - it just makes it look really good in my opinion.
I haven't had a case that looks like that since..ever. Always the stock-looking ones, and I wanted something refreshing this time =p

Well, this one is $120, so I guess it should be about that much :x

Thanks for your help again

P.S. I'll probably go with an E6420 now.

With a little luck I'll also be able to squeeze some more money out of my dad ><
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$120! In US Dollars?
It's ~$65 here I think...

I'm gonna go shop for a case for you
    
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VERY well built, probably one of the best price/performace cases... CM C5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119077

Solid name (ThermalTake) and a new, price warey contender. The TT Swing
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133172

If you still want that "alien-ish" feel, NXZT is the only brand that does
so that also keeps up with the quality. Generally this style is aimed at the
"Buy me cuz I am uber 1337" croud, with no attention to quality. But
NXZT knows how to pull it off. Here is the NXZT, also available in other colors.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146026

Now we have a lot more options, but I was going based on the fact that newegg sells the "RAIDMAX NINJA" for ~$70.
If you insist on RAIDMAX, then the RAIDMAX Katana is probably your best bet.
Sort of a knock off of the ThermalTake Armour.

Let me know what you think, any special needs you have and I will search some more I love case shopping, yet I still ended up with the Antec 900... because it's great. lol O_O Check my gallery! (camera icon on left)
    
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Well, it's a "OCZ EVOSTREAM SLI FULLY PREMUIM 600W", which is why I think it's a mistake. But if it's not, it's definitely a great find ;p

The P5N-E is slightly more expensive here, about $20-$60 more (different stores), but the P5ND2-SE is actually cheaper, but it doesn't support a 1066MHz FSB, so I'm guessing it's quite old.


By the way, do you know about any forum in which people post their entire "journey" of overclocking? It's something I could learn from, seeing how people go on about testing it - I need to know where to start, and all the "guides" on this forum aren't really guides but just tell you about the concept and dos and don'ts, but there aren't any examples to learn from.

Also, how big is the risk of frying your CPU when overclocking?

Thanks everybody!
The EVOSTREAM series is a budget one, but it smells a bit fishy... too cheap to believe. I would check it out, if possible, first hand: look at it, compare it with pictures you can find on the web and look at the specs. If all turns out fine, you're in for a bargain.

The ASUS you've mentioned is old, and not worth it. If the P5N-E SLI is 10$ (for ex) more than the Gigabyte, I'd pay them. As somebody else said, it's a proven overclocker, free from compatibility issues and the sorts.

I think the OCing guides can be summed up like this:

1.Find max CPU
2.Find max ram.

For one, I don't care about the number 2 as it gives lots of headaches and not much performance bonus. Remember, you've asked for a first hand experience, not a guide. This is my story, clicky. In my opinion, you can't really burn anything, unless you would do really stupid things like putting 2V thru the CPU with stock cooling. Other than that, it's a pretty straight forward business: lower ram speed, pump up slowly the FSB (HTT for AMDs), check at each step what is the load temp, as long as the temp is below 60°C and it passes half an hour of testing, you can still raise the FSB. When it doesn't work any more (cool but unstable) pump up +0.1V
for the CPU and check again for stability (OCCT software) and temperature (below 60°C load). Do that until you either surpass the 60°C or it doesn't stabilize any more.

Don't do suicide runs like I did for 3GHz, that's risky. Don't raise any other voltage than CPU's until you understand what does each do. Voltage=heat, and that equals instability. For an Intel keep a max Vcore of 1.45V and for AMD a 1.5V. Even these should be attend only with better cooling. You can raise Vram at 2V for pretty much any sticks.

One last thing, for the ram, if you can find I really recommend the Crucial Balistix DDR667; firstly I have them, I'm not talking hear-say, they go to DDR900 without any problems (2.3V and 5-5-5-15 2T timings - chips Micron D9 GMH). They are better than most of the DDR800, better that the DDR800 G-skill PK I had before.

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post #26 of 54
Completely agreed on the P5N-E.
But I slightly disagree with the RAM choice.

Yes, a few months ago the 667 RAM going to 900 may have been worth it.
But now DDR2-800 prices have DROPPED a LOT, and you can easily get 800 RAM for the price of 667 that will easily do well over 1000Mhz. Some will do 1200 easy.
Pook has some Ballistix tracers @ something like 1000mhz and 1.9v I think. Insane.

But I also agree, RAM is not nearly as much an issue as CPU.
Get some 800 RAM, and you don't even have to worry about overclocking till you hit 400FSB.
    
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post #27 of 54
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GREAT SUCCESS! I can get an NZXT Apollo for $90
And yes, I would buy stuff just because they look good this time around.. the plain look got very old...I kinda wanted something I can look at and start *******.

Well, maybe not that last part ;p

Thanks =)!

By the way, does a Cooler Master eXtreme Power 430w PSU sound ok? (I ran my "worst case scenario" spec through http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine and I got 427w - I doubt it'll get that high)
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No, lol.
Do you shop online for your PSUs? If so, link me, I'll help you out.
    
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No, lol.
Do you shop online for your PSUs? If so, link me, I'll help you out.
Well, it's in hebrew, but you can probably still figure it out.
The NoaComp, Plonter, etc list are shops, don't mind that. the "150 - 250 ש"ח" thingy is price range filtering.
To convert ₪ to $USD, type "<₪> ils in usd" in google, ex: 507 ils in usd
http://zap.co.il/models.asp?sog=C-PowerSupply (a price comparison site)

P.S. Thanks dragosmp
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what is your max price for it, in ils?
    
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