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okay well then you have no understanding of physics, basically nothing is instantaneous. If you won't acknowledge that, there is really nothing I can do.
Instantaneous, no ... but an equilibrium is achieved within a given period of time depending upon your loop and the amount of cooling medium involved. A larger reservoir will take longer to reach an equilibrium because of the amount of water that needs to pass through the entire system.
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heat will transfer by a certain amount depending on time thematerials make contact, the materials themselves, and the state they are in.
say a molecule of water absorbs 1w of heat every second (obviously not true, just to make calculating easier)
since its a closed loop, it will go past the CPU block several times. a molecule makes contact in the block for say... 0.1 seconds (absorbing 0.1W of heat, if we say that water takes 1w per sec), and it passes the entire loop in 1 sec. if you double the speed at which the water flows it will take only 0.05 seconds to go trough the waterblock, absorbing only half the heat. BUT, it will pas twice in the 1 sec the slower molecule needs to go trough the entire loop. that means it passes trough the block twice. 0.05 + 0.05 = 0.1 thus it will also transfer 0.1W of heat.
post #53 of 78
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Yeah, just go read neweggs reviews on their TT systems for a while....those poor..poor people. Probably scared away alot of good would be water coolers with all them failing pumps and cracking blocks..

Thermaltake sucks at making anything other than cases and fans...had to throw that in there because of my armor..
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Were not radiators....

.....Water Flow
That's a great analogy of the theory behind jet impingment and nozzles, I like it!
    
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heat will transfer by a certain amount depending on time thematerials make contact, the materials themselves, and the state they are in.
say a molecule of water absorbs 1w of heat every second (obviously not true, just to make calculating easier)
since its a closed loop, it will go past the CPU block several times. a molecule makes contact in the block for say... 0.1 seconds (absorbing 0.1W of heat, if we say that water takes 1w per sec), and it passes the entire loop in 1 sec. if you double the speed at which the water flows it will take only 0.05 seconds to go trough the waterblock, absorbing only half the heat. BUT, it will pas twice in the 1 sec the slower molecule needs to go trough the entire loop. that means it passes trough the block twice. 0.05 + 0.05 = 0.1 thus it will also transfer 0.1W of heat.
but the idea of heatpipes alone would create less SA than the flat fins that are on there now, which would mean it would be a bulkier amount of water trying to be heated, as in with the heat fins, you have a thin layer being heated not a large mass
post #56 of 78
as i said earlier, give the hatpipes the same pins as found on a normal WB and the surface area will be many times greater. even without them though, the SA of a heatpipe WB without fins as well would still have more SA as a normal WB. its the entire idea behind the heatpipes, remember?
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but the idea of heatpipes alone would create less SA than the flat fins that are on there now, which would mean it would be a bulkier amount of water trying to be heated, as in with the heat fins, you have a thin layer being heated not a large mass
The way that the fins are now will not help. Just because there is lots of surface area, doesn't mean the water will flow over all of it.
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okay then, if I drop some water on a hot skillet and quicky move it through from side to side, only one time, Think of a frictionless stove, so the water wont just diffuse. then again very slowly this time do the same technique, I guarantee more water will have evaporated, your racetrack analogy is wrong, because we are not talking about distance here we are talking about heat transfer


Its not my race car analogy its Cathar's and if you don't even know who he is why are you even talking about WC'ing?
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I know about physics and heat transfer, I don't study your friends sorry........ I asked to stop arguing about this a while ago, so whatever I have my opinion, you have yours.......
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lol. physics isnt a matter of opinions. just admit your mistakes like a man. we're all human and all make mistakes.
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