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I don't believe I have made a mistake........
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not to be an a-hole or something, but how many people need to tell you you're wrong before you believe us.
post #63 of 78
Cathar is ... well ... as close to a watercooling God as a person can get. He is one of the design and cooling experts from Thermochill fame. If he doesn't know heat transfer physics, nobody does ... period.
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I am sorry I don't just take someones word for it, how many times do I have to tell you you are wrong before you'll blindly admit it, It would have to be a lot, if you think you are not wrong. I seriously think that this design would be better, we don't have any benchmarks, nor do we have the other proposed block, So we can't say for sure whether I am right or wrong, but the fact that a company who hired engineers chose my way shows that I at least have promise... So no I will not blindly admit that I am wrong without proof, though as I said I would love to get on with my life and stop arguing this. If you want to take that as a victory be my guest.
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haha a Tt fan boy...how nice

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but the fact that a company who hired engineers chose my way shows that I at least have promise...
haha you think Tt hires engineers to build this stuff...LoL
this design probably took about 5 mins, "all show and no go" as i say it.
Thats what Tt concentrates on, looks.
Because if it looks good, people will buy it.
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Cathar is ... well ... as close to a watercooling God as a person can get. He is one of the design and cooling experts from Thermochill fame. If he doesn't know heat transfer physics, nobody does ... period.


Don't forget he designed and built the Storm G-5 arguably one of the finest WB's ever made......He helped design the Thermochill PA.160...
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Don't forget he designed and built the Storm G-5 arguably one of the finest WB's ever made......He helped design the Thermochill PA.160...
how is that PA.160 btw Ira?

hmmm im willing to give that a try soon enough.

Hey you know what would be cool, rads in your drive bays.
Like stacked and sized to fit the bay. with a left to right like flow with a fan in between each rad. Connected by tubes.

So it will be rad>fan>rad>fan etc to as many as you want.
The rads will be connected by tubing and flow like this from top |_|¯|_|¯| to bottom in that way. picture that what the | are the rads and the _ are the tubing. and the whole thing right side up of corse and horizontal.

LoL just an idea. Might need a good strong pump for that one
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Basically, Cathar said flow doesn't matter. It spends the same amount of time picking up heat and the same amount of time losing it. Though I'd say faster is better ONLY because delta T remains higher.
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how is that PA.160 btw Ira?

hmmm im willing to give that a try soon enough.

Hey you know what would be cool, rads in your drive bays.
Like stacked and sized to fit the bay. with a left to right like flow with a fan in between each rad. Connected by tubes.

So it will be rad>fan>rad>fan etc to as many as you want.
The rads will be connected by tubing and flow like this from top |_|¯|_|¯| to bottom in that way. picture that what the | are the rads and the _ are the tubing. and the whole thing right side up of corse and horizontal.

LoL just an idea. Might need a good strong pump for that one


I've never had one but they are supposed to cool as well as most 240 rads with low cfm fans anyway....



I'd hate to have all that in my case......Dryadsoul stacks his heater-cores something like that but he has them out-side of his box....
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This is what I don't get on this design, ok here is a schematic of how Heat Pipes work:



So in order for a heatpipe to work you need to heat the liquid to a point where it boils, the vapor then trasfers up the tube and condenses on the sidewalls returning to the base. Upright is preferrable, but wicking and other methods allow a heatpipe to work in any direction.

The question I have with this design is that the coolant is also running along the base, so the heat transfer would be much faster at the base and likely there isn't enough heat left to boil the heatpipe fluid..?

Remember that the specific heat of water is something like 25X that of air, that's why water blocks are so different. My gut tells me those heatpipes arn't transfering much heat at all and all the transfer is occuring at the base directly to the fluid.

My 2C...it's an asthetic design, a marketing stragety targeting newcoming watercoolers with a need for more "Cool factor"...the same performance benefit as UV dye..
    
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