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Hi

Photos will be soon on the way.
This card has an itel i740 chipset. I have heard that there was only one i740 based AGP card and I know this isn't it but its AGP. Here is the description

Ports: VGA (there is a location for S-video)
RAM: 8mb (i believe) Made by ASD Says AE46D160320-8 and below that 3398530517A on each of the 4 chips
NTSC or PAL: Neither there is a section and the company that makes t would solder the jumpers to decide and there is no solder on either.

Has a 26 pin gold connector and a 40 pin connector above it.

On the back it says (on a sticker) Video-740AGP-3D S/N: A993021639
(bar code)
8M Made in USA

Printed on the card (in white) JTMNC VCV0 (with a printed line through the zero)82740PCI

ANd then finally under that (a check sign) N1058.


ANy ideas?

My hand is sore..................

EDIT:
Quote:
You ought to keep that Real3D Starfighter card though. It should be considered a collector's item. It was one of the very first AGP cards, and also the only card, with the exception of the PCI version, that used intel's only discrete graphics chip ever made, the i740. They are quite rare. Maybe I'll pick it up to complement my Real3D Starfighter PCI card.
Its not this REAL 3D thing either (photos courtesy of RyGuy)

MY PHOTOS














1 RAM chips
3 I740
4 Voltage regulator
5 Place for optinaml S-video out cip thing
6 Atmel AT29C010A
7 40 pin connector
9 26 pin connecto
10 solder jumper
11 VGA out
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It isn't a very rare video card, it's just the only card Intel made that's made for AGP.
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You ought to keep that Real3D Starfighter card though. It should be considered a collector's item. It was one of the very first AGP cards, and also the only card, with the exception of the PCI version, that used intel's only discrete graphics chip ever made, the i740. They are quite rare. Maybe I'll pick it up to complement my Real3D Starfighter PCI card.
This is where I am getting the rare thing. From a member (RADEON) on this forum
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Was that quote from RADEON in my big sale thread?
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yup
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Originally Posted by iampoor View Post
Hi

Photos will be soon on the way.
This card has an itel i740 chipset. I have heard that there was only one i740 based AGP card and I know this isn't it but its AGP. Here is the description

Ports: VGA (there is a location for S-video)
RAM: 8mb (i believe) Made by ASD Says AE46D160320-8 and below that 3398530517A on each of the 4 chips
NTSC or PAL: Neither there is a section and the company that makes t would solder the jumpers to decide and there is no solder on either.

Has a 26 pin gold connector and a 40 pin connector above it.

On the back it says (on a sticker) Video-740AGP-3D S/N: A993021639
(bar code)
8M Made in USA

Printed on the card (in white) JTMNC VCV0 (with a printed line through the zero)82740PCI

ANd then finally under that (a check sign) N1058.


ANy ideas?

My hand is sore..................

EDIT:

Its not this REAL 3D thing either (photos courtesy of RyGuy)
I'd have to see a pic of it, but I didn't know anyone else ever made a card with the i740 besides REAL3D. By the looks of the RAM #'s, it looks like they're probably 8ns chips, which are faster than the standard 10ns found on the REAL3D in the pics. Plus I think 8MB was the most RAM that the AGP i740 came with.
A TV out chip was optional on those things, so that's what the empty S-video connector slot and NTSC/PAL jumper is for. Also, you should upgrade the bios on it if its not already at least version 146, since 146 enabled some early bump mapping features. There is a 147 bios, although it's hard to find on the web, and I don't know what's better about it compared to the 146 ( I do have the 147 on a disk around somewhere).

Very nice! Keep it. It's a very interesting bit of 3D graphics hardware history. Not exactly super rare, just very uncommon. There weren't nearly as many of them sold as Voodoos, TNTs and the like. You should try it in an old machine for a real blast from the past. Be aware though, that card is an AGP 1x card that will only work in an older AGP 1x/2x mobo. DO NOT plug it in to a 4x or 8x slot unless the mobo manual explicitly states that it's compatable with 1x/2x hardware, or you will kill your mobo and/or gfx card! Most 4x/8x slots will not work with 1x/2x cards, since the signaling voltages are too different (5v/3.3v for 1x/2x vs. 1.5v/0.8v for 4x/8x).

For a bit of i740 history, the i740 was intel's only discrete 3D graphics chip they made. They did plan for a successor, the i752, which was actually the same exact graphics logic as the i810/i815 integrated graphics. I have seen pictures of boards with i752 chips, but they are extremely rare, since intel apparently actually did release an i752, but it was even less popular than the i740.

The i740 was intel's skeem to push their newly designed AGP standard into popularity, much like Sony pushing Blu-ray by putting it into the PS3. It supported many sophisticated nex-gen features such as the ability to apply 2 textures in a single pass, and being able to use high-res 1024x1024 pixel textures (the Riva128, Rage series, and all the Voodoos up through 3 could only do 256x256, which looked like crap compared to the 1Kx1K textures. For comparison, the GeForce 8 series can handle 8192x8192 size textures!). It was also capable of per-pixel shading, trilinear filtering, and a 24bit Z buffer.

I have never seen hard numbers, but I think it runs at 100MHz. It could render 1.35 million polygons per sec and 66 M pixels per sec. The image quality was Sooo much better than any Voodoo 2/3 (the V2 could only do bilinear filtering, and the texture res sucked on both cards). It did'nt fare well, since, back then, gamers were absolutely crazy about frames per sec, and didn't care about image quality. The Voodoos were crazy fast, at the expense of image quality, and they were the most popular. The i740 just couldn't perform well enough for how much it cost, but it looks amazing compared to a Voodoo card.

Since AGP was a very new slot, and the i740 was strictly an AGP chip, REAL3D decided to make a custom PCI/AGP bridge chip, much like the PCI-e/AGP chip on the GF 6/7 series AGP cards, so they could produce a PCI i740 card. I've already written an explanation on how that works here. It's quite impressive! Scroll up and down a bit, as there's an interesting reiteration of what I've already said, and also some links to old i740 benchies.

http://www.overclock.net/graphics-ca...ml#post1940493
    
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I will be getting pics very soon

THanks RADEON rep+

EDIT: It has no manufacturer just nothing? Enigineering sample? I foun it in a box of stuff at my old church
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I don't mean to be rude. But, what's the point? Whether it's rare or not, you get nothing out of it. Even if you keep it, one day you'll throw it out.
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I don't mean to be rude. But, what's the point? Whether it's rare or not, you get nothing out of it. Even if you keep it, one day you'll throw it out.
No I will not. I happen to collect odd computer iems and apparently I value them but you don't I wan to learn about it too as I love history
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It could be an ES, or maybe REAL3D supplied some small OEM builders. Does the board layout, shape, and size look pretty much the same as Ryguy's REAL3D board?
    
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