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Conroe is nothing like any previous Pentium 4 products. In fact, it's based on the mobile Core Duo design which is in itself based on Pentium M, which is based on Pentium 3 architecture. So Intel has actually done a bit of a U-turn.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/cpu-me...E6700-X6800/p1

Also, www.google.com you'll find that little tidbit repeated abotu 3247298347209 times on 2374328947108 websites.
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Besides the core2 architecture itself, what exactly has Intel innovated? Hell, core2 is simply a rehashed PIII. However, Intel sure as s&() has AMD blown away in product release. It's burying AMD pretty badly.
The architecture itself IS the innovation. Not to mention the more rapid adoption of 65nm and soon to follow 45nm process. Like it or not (and I don't) Intel is currently, how do you say....."laying the smack down"
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To bad, Intel's V8 workstation mobo is out already.
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With all of Intel's "innovation" you'd think that they would be able to design their own 64bit CPUs without licensing from AMD.
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With all of Intel's "innovation" you'd think that they would be able to design their own 64bit CPUs without licensing from AMD.
Moots, you know I have nothing but respect you...and you also know that I am an unabashed AMD fanboi, so when I say this...it pains me. Intels decision to license architecture is a brilliant move, it provides them with a much needed design improvement and the ability to see returns on the investment immediately. Thats why many large corps do co-promotional and co-licensing deals...its win-win. Now, while they are increasing revenues, they can divert that back into developing their own 64bit architecture without compromising market share. Like it or not, it was the right decision from both a business and developmental standpoint.

I will now vomit in my mouth to cleanse the intel support from my being!
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Moots, you know I have nothing but respect you...and you also know that I am an unabashed AMD fanboi, so when I say this...it pains me. Intels decision to license architecture is a brilliant move, it provides them with a much needed design improvement and the ability to see returns on the investment immediately. Thats why many large corps do co-promotional and co-licensing deals...its win-win. Now, while they are increasing revenues, they can divert that back into developing their own 64bit architecture without compromising market share. Like it or not, it was the right decision from both a business and developmental standpoint.

I will now vomit in my mouth to cleanse the intel support from my being!
I'm just saying that they don't have "innovation" like previously stated.
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To be fair, AMD hasn't innovated with their processors since their integrated memory controller. IMC versus P3 that's what, 5 years apart? That's FOREVER in the computer world.
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post #18 of 50
I can't see what all the fuss is about, this would should only really concern those with big enough budegts for two CPU's.

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Originally Posted by Ihatethedukes View Post
Besides the core2 architecture itself, what exactly has Intel innovated?
Just off the top of my head:

AGP
ATX
BTX
Indio (video capture codec)
MMX
PCI
PCI-Express
SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3

W00t, 1000 Posts!
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yes WOOT and nice list of intel innovations they really are a great company.
    
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And how many of those AREN'T from the 1990's?

And you forgot hyperthreading... though that wasn't so much of an innovation so much as a marketing gimmick that didn't do anything substantial for performance.
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