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My situation is that I had this rig on my old PC and moved it to my new one when I bought my new parts. Therefore its quite old and needs some new parts.

Currently I'm running:
WhiteWater LE on my Athlon X2 4400+
Eheim 1048
BlackIce II
I have a Maze4 but it doesn't fit my 8800GTX .

Right now I got about 200b bux, Probably enough to make the bare minimum for new parts. I got plenty of tube and all this ****. HOWEVER I'd still like this to be cheap, I'm puttin' 200 aside for this but I'm also buying a big new desk and some parts for my car, gunna be tight on money!

Anwayyyys, I've been pretty out of this stuff for a while now and have NO IDEA what to buy. Any Ideas?
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For the 8800, I'd recommend an MCW60 with G80 adapter plate, they are not as nice looking as the full coverage blocks, but they are the best performers and lower cost to boot.

http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcgpuwawg8.html

for the ram/mem you might try one of these, although on XS some have complained that they didn't make good contact with all the chips, so check that out with a thermalpaste mount/dismount check:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/dgfxun88e5.html

Otherwise just get these:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcsmccokit.html

What size rad do you have? for the CPU plus 8800, it would be recommended to get a triple 120mm rad. Lots of options there, depends on the noise you want to put up with and your budget.

And I probably wouldn't bother if you already have a whitewater and it's compatible with what you're cooling now, but if you want the latest, the Fuzions are amongst the top for commercial blocks:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/dfuuncpubl1.html

You could probably continue to use the pump if it works well, otherwise the most common are the DDC with petra top or the D5, recent rumor has it that the new DDC 3.2 version upgrade has lost some of it's performance for more reliability, but either one would be good for two block loops if they are relatively free flowing.
    
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Thanks a lot for the advice! I have a really small 240mm rad. What do you suggest for a new one? Should I keep the old on ein the loop? Sound isn't really an issue for me, I already got two 100cfm Sunon's in here so what the hell, plus I have fan controllers.

I felt like I'd need a new pump if I introduced a new radiator, think this old ones really fine?

edit: I figure a MCW60 and the cost of heatsinks/that plate would cost close to just a full cover one, which is the best if I'm gunna be doing overclocking?

more edit: What's the diff between the MCW60 and the FuZion for the 8800
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Yeah, I would keep the old rad in the loop, maybe add another 240 in there. As long as the old rad isn't leaking, I would make use of it if you can.

You might have trouble with the pump, the Eheim 1048 only has 4'11" of head, so running it with two rads and two blocks would probably be pushing it, on the other hands most water block still do pretty good as low as one gallon per minute, and you don't see a big drop off until you get to about .5. You could always give it a run and see how it does, and you could also do a flow rate check yourself with a 5 gallon bucket and a stopwatch.

A D5 has 10 feet of head so it's over twice the pump. I still like my D5s, and if you wanted to go that route, I would get the non-variable version. I have one of each (Variable/non) and the variable is a waste of money. Everyone runs them a full tilt anyway.

Here is a D5 for $69
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmc12vdcpuw.html

The old DDC with petra top was a higher head pump good for multiple blocks etc, but I'm not sure how it's doing now with the newer 3.2 version. The old 2.0 was good for about 19 feet of head: Here it is for $99
http://www.petrastechshop.com/laddcwpeddto.html

I ran two MCR320s with a D-tek Fuzion and MCW60 with my D5 for a while. People told me I needed more pumping power so I bought another, but I found I really didn't need to. The D5 with both rads and both block was still getting around 1.6 gal/min, so my temps were very close before/after, but I'm adding a NB block to my GPU loop now and someday I'll get another 8800.

Anyway, I think a D5 would be good enough and they're ultra quiet and bulletproof.
    
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Oh and for high CFM fans for low cost I would try one of the HW BIX rads or a dual heater core, you need good fans for both, they are nice and thick. Havn't had either myself, but I've heard enough good about them.
    
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edit: I figure a MCW60 and the cost of heatsinks/that plate would cost close to just a full cover one, which is the best if I'm gunna be doing overclocking?

more edit: What's the diff between the MCW60 and the FuZion for the 8800
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The EK is one of the better full coverage blocks and I think they run around $140. The MCW60 plus sinks will be somewhere around $80.

The MCW60 is the better performer. Under load it's about 10C better than the Danger Den:

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=get...59&articID=554

Either one will cool enough to overclock plenty, but every little bit counts. I ran a Thermalright HR-03 plus with a 120mm fan which got me down to 41C idle 51C load, and then went to the MCW60 and now down to lower-mid 30s load depending on ambient. This improvement over the HR-03 gave me even more overclock than the HR-03, so every little bit counts.

D-tek Fuzion is a CPU block, they also make a D-tek GFX GPU block, but it's highly restrictive. I have the D-tek fuzion for my CPU and the MCW60 for my 8800.
    
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post #8 of 19
Yeah I would go with a Swifty 60 also...They cool well and are not as restrictive as the full coverage and you don't dump all the ram heat into your loop...


A 240 BIX is a very decent rad with 100+ cfm fans on it...The new GTX are more expensive but they have quite a bit less pressure drop across the rad..I went from using a 240 BIX to a 480 GTX and only lost 1psi in my loop..I have a pressure gauge....I use 108 Sunon and 115cfm panaflo on the GTX also...
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Okay cool, how much of a difference would the FuZion make over the WhiteWater? I'd like to hit 3.1GHz stable
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hey good luck with that buddy
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