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Poll Results: What Should I Do?

Poll expired: Jul 9, 2007  
  • 28% (10)
    Get: Conroe, DDR2, and P35
  • 62% (22)
    Get: Penryn, DDR2/3, and X38
  • 8% (3)
    Get: Barcalonda... Haha, good one.
35 Total Votes  
post #21 of 33
http://www.overclock.net/2325059-post12.html

I'm Glad to see another member consider the DX38BT. The DX38BT is only DDR3


Anyways, I don't think 1:1 is the best way for an Intel system, I find higher performance by running a higher divider. I also find timings really don't affect my performance that much, just the overall MHz. So, that would make DDR3 much worth it.
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http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?...me=0&endtime=0

This wasn't the article I was looking for, but it should help explain.

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Taking DDR3-1066 (7-7-7), DDR3-1333 (8-8-8), and DDR3-1600 (9-9-9) as examples, we need to count the clock speed in order to calculate the CAS Latency, and the results are 13.125ns, 12ns, and 11.25ns. They get 25% faster. So we should bear in mind that CAS Latency is not related to CL only, but also the clock speed.
Thanks to the Anchorman
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post #23 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla View Post
Pentium 4???? Dude that was a HORRIBLE CPU!
That depended on who was running the Pentium processor.
But at 4.0ghz and more, they're doing what they're supposed to do, since that Netburst was all about clock speed and the mere 2.80ghz to 3.80ghz was not really the frequencies they needed to shine at.

But 4.0ghz and more it's when they started to show its true potential, even on Pentium Ds: http://www.overclockers.com.au/artic...?id=452447&P=4

All of my Pentium 4 procs needed to do what they needed to do:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=57903
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=85085
Heck, even my pre-Conroe, the Celeron D: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=101771


Ninja_Boy; if you have the will power to wait, then wait till X38 and Peryn come out.

Otherwise, P35 and E6600.

P35 will also support Peryn CPUs, although no SLI or maybe.
post #24 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul View Post
That depended on who was running the Pentium processor.
But at 4.0ghz and more, they're doing what they're supposed to do, since that Netburst was all about clock speed and the mere 2.80ghz to 3.80ghz was not really the frequencies they needed to shine at.

But 4.0ghz and more it's when they started to show its true potential, even on Pentium Ds: http://www.overclockers.com.au/artic...?id=452447&P=4

All of my Pentium 4 procs needed to do what they needed to do:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=57903
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=85085
Heck, even my pre-Conroe, the Celeron D: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=101771


Ninja_Boy; if you have the will power to wait, then wait till X38 and Peryn come out.

Otherwise, P35 and E6600.

P35 will also support Peryn CPUs, although no SLI or maybe.

I can only imagine the amount of heat those P4 put out!
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post #25 of 33
I vote for get Conroe/DDR2 now.

The problem with waiting, is that you'll be doing it forever... The latest things become old news so quickly, that it makes little sense (imo) to wait at all. Just keep upgrading with whatever is newest, as you can afford it.

If this upgrade is going to be your last for a couple of years, than yes, wait for Penryn, X38, and DDR3, but if you plan to constantly upgrade as you can afford it, then just go Conroe now and upgrade again later on.

Anyway, just my on the issue .

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post #26 of 33
I think that a quad core and P35 should offer sufficient performance for some time to come. If you think about how much CPU power are these new games coming out really going to need. A Q6600 in a multithreaded game offers nearly twice the performance of a dual core conroe and the vast majority of users gamers included aren't running a processor that powerful. So game companies have to keep that in mind when designing new games. If a game comes out that doesn't run well on a Q6600 within the next 9 months you have to ask what the hell that company was doing.
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post #27 of 33
can someone briefly explain what is new with the X38 chipset over the P35? i'm waiting until July 22 to upgrade and was planning on going with the E6750, Gigabyte P35-DS3R, Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 (w/ D9).

Is the X38 supposed to be better than the P35?
When is the Penryn chip supposed to come out?
Should I wait? (I'm going crazy right now with my 1.8Ghz Centrino)
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post #28 of 33
X38 is a chipset built to OC and gaming from Intel. This is the first chip set ever build for these purposes. The boards are stronger and capable of serious performance gains.

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Wait for X38 I figure buy a Q6600 now for cheap get a x38 mother board in august and upgrade the CPU latter when the price drops. Plus there are new boards that support ddr2 and ddr3 so buy 2 gigs ddr2 now and 2 gigs ddr3 latter when the price drops and more programs use ddr3. And that way you don't waste money on ram you can't use.
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post #29 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla View Post

I can only imagine the amount of heat those P4 put out!
Not an issue when you have a Tuniq Tower 120. P4s were doing 55c full load and 37c idle, the Celeron D was doing 39c idle and 58c full load.

On Topic:
If the X38 comes with DDR2 flavor, then it'll be worth buying, mainly because prices for DDR3 will reaming high till DDR3 becomes more mainstream. I don't see a point in getting X38, but if prices of DDR3 fall as low as DDR2 for when X38 launches? Then it'll be worth it.

DDR2 was never about latencies but frequency, and the same will be for DDR3, except it will run with less voltage, 1.5v I believe, though I have not seen yet how the first modules overclock........so let's wait.
post #30 of 33
Ya the Boards will be dual flavor DDR2 and DDR3 at the same time. And I believe the X38 Mobo's will out perform anything else out right now. But time will tell.
    
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