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thanks for all the help guys...so I think i'll save some money and just get a new processor and upgrade to 2gigs of ram?...

if this is the wisest decision for me please jump in the thread and help me out, I'd really appreciate it.

but earlier in the thread there was talk about "C2D" can anyone inform me about what that is?
C2D is AMD's ass-whooper. Search around forum for Core 2 Duo or Conroe.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Tpk=core+2+duo
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I'm not sure how much that would cost, but if it's cheaper than the above mentioned amd upgrade i'm interested.

as of now, I just want the cheapest upgrade to get the full potential out of my video card.

I don't see myself really creating a real monster machine until im finished with school and living on my own..but I have to say, this hobby is really addicting (and expensive) lol.

so right now you guys have me bought on that dual processor and 2 gigs of memory...i'll probably have enough cash left over to get a new monitor, so everything is looking pretty good.

another question, how hard in comparison to video cards, are processors to install?
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C2D is AMD's ass-whooper. Search around forum for Core 2 Duo or Conroe.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Tpk=core+2+duo
Going C2D is not going to show him $200 extra worth of performance. If he was going to spend $200 extra, it would be best spent dumping that 7950GT, buying an 8800GTS, and going AM2... and there is no argument there. That system would CRUSH a C2D system with a 7950GT.

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I'm not sure how much that would cost, but if it's cheaper than the above mentioned amd upgrade i'm interested.
It is considerably more expensive and will make little to no difference in gaming performance.

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as of now, I just want the cheapest upgrade to get the full potential out of my video card.
Either going AM2 or upgrading your current system fits that bill perfectly.

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another question, how hard in comparison to video cards, are processors to install?
About the same. Read guides and ask questions first and you'll be fine.
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With decent cooling you could get 2.6Ghz out of that 3200 which would help you quite a bit, but time to look at going dual core, an Athlon 3800 or Opteron 165 or 175 would do wonders
i went with an opteron 175 as an upgrade for a 3500+... all i could say was WOW... noticed a frame rate jump and a massive load time decrease...
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I'm not sure how much that would cost, but if it's cheaper than the above mentioned amd upgrade i'm interested.

as of now, I just want the cheapest upgrade to get the full potential out of my video card.

I don't see myself really creating a real monster machine until im finished with school and living on my own..but I have to say, this hobby is really addicting (and expensive) lol.

so right now you guys have me bought on that dual processor and 2 gigs of memory...i'll probably have enough cash left over to get a new monitor, so everything is looking pretty good.

another question, how hard in comparison to video cards, are processors to install?
Pretty hard, I'd say. You have to do ton of research on your mobo and heatsink and case and what not. After I first done mine, I wish I could have paid some damn $$ to have it assembled. But it's all fun afterward. And you got the whole forum of support in case something doesn't go where it supposed to.
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C2D is AMD's ass-whooper. Search around forum for Core 2 Duo or Conroe.
OMG are you stupid or somthing or a fanboy,there is not need for him to by a C2D he whants to save money and i dont see any need to get one any way there is no need to pay 200+ dollers for a CPU tha is going to lower load times in a game by only 5-15 seconds.An AMD CPU will get rid of his bottle neck and speed up his computer there is no need to get one,INTEL is not all that,for overclocking yes but in the realy computer market the C2D is only just ahead of Athlon x2 a 5200+ is the same speed as a E6600,and an e6600 is the high end aside for quad and the way ultra high end dual cores.i have seem HP computer with 4800+s cost more that computers with e6400,becuase in the realy world all that matters is stock overclockers do not make up a big part of the market.intel is as big as they are now becuase they had dell on there side and all they sold was,intel is where they are today becuase they are a bunch of law breaking peaces of crap,they broke the laws that america stands for.if you ask me they should be find out the @$$ for what they did.
    
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thanks again for all the help.

now I just need some good bang for buck ram(2gigs), and a nice clear 20-20.1-22" monitor and im set!! any recommendations here?
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I'm not sure how much that would cost, but if it's cheaper than the above mentioned amd upgrade i'm interested.

as of now, I just want the cheapest upgrade to get the full potential out of my video card.

I don't see myself really creating a real monster machine until im finished with school and living on my own..but I have to say, this hobby is really addicting (and expensive) lol.

so right now you guys have me bought on that dual processor and 2 gigs of memory...i'll probably have enough cash left over to get a new monitor, so everything is looking pretty good.

another question, how hard in comparison to video cards, are processors to install?

To be honest, if you don't wish to spend money unecessarily then you could scour 2nd hand sources for the cheapest Athlon64 3700 or 4000. They are cheap as chips (no pun intended ) with some many converts to dual cores.
If you're only doing homework and gaming, dual core is not crucial.
It'll last for at least the next year and possible 2 yrs.

In the UK, even with prices comparatively higher than in the US you can pick up a 2nd hand 3700+ for around £20-£25 ($40-$50)
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thanks again for all the help.

now I just need some good bang for buck ram(2gigs), and a nice clear 20-20.1-22" monitor and im set!! any recommendations here?
Best value is for you to get the X2 3600+. It just cannot be beaten for its price.

CPU: AMD X2 3600+ Brisbane - $63.99
Motherboard: Asus M2N-E - $104.99
RAM: OCZ Gold 2x 1GB DDR2-667 - $78.99

With luck that should overclock well, DDR2-667 is enough to reach 3Ghz on stock speed.
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If your just looking to play Guild Wars I wouldn't worry about upgrading your whole system. Meeting your requirements is the most important thing. If you throw in another gig of ram + get the max OC out of your proc you should have high framerates and no stuttering while playing GW. However if your looking for performance in newer games as well you may as well upgrade to a dual core processor and future proof your rig. If your going to end up upgrading CPU + Ram you may as well start with a completely different platform. If your hurtin' for cash then an AM2 system with a +3600 would do very well. Or you could spend a little bit more and get a Core 2 Duo setup which is still the best bang for your buck. The C2D's romp and stomp all over the AM2's. BTW the E6420's are hitting really good clocks right now, not so much the 6600's and 4300's at the moment.

At the end of the day though it comes down to your requirements. Why bring a Ferrari to the go kart track right? If all your doing is playing Guild Wars then just buy another gig and overclock that CPU because GW isn't even a dual core enabled game. If you like to play lots of power hungry games (FPS in particular), would like to play newer games coming out and would like to future proof your rig then think about a new system, probably one based on the Core 2.
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