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If your just looking to play Guild Wars I wouldn't worry about upgrading your whole system. Meeting your requirements is the most important thing. If you throw in another gig of ram + get the max OC out of your proc you should have high framerates and no stuttering while playing GW. However if your looking for performance in newer games as well you may as well upgrade to a dual core processor and future proof your rig. If your going to end up upgrading CPU + Ram you may as well start with a completely different platform. If your hurtin' for cash then an AM2 system with a +3600 would do very well. Or you could spend a little bit more and get a Core 2 Duo setup which is still the best bang for your buck. The C2D's romp and stomp all over the AM2's. BTW the E6420's are hitting really good clocks right now, not so much the 6600's and 4300's at the moment.

At the end of the day though it comes down to your requirements. Why bring a Ferrari to the go kart track right? If all your doing is playing Guild Wars then just buy another gig and overclock that CPU because GW isn't even a dual core enabled game. If you like to play lots of power hungry games (FPS in particular), would like to play newer games coming out and would like to future proof your rig then think about a new system, probably one based on the Core 2.
Core 2 isn't a necessity. The cheapest, E4300, still costs roughly twice the price of a X2 3600+. C2D doesn't stomp all over AM2 until you get a E6600 with a good week, and yet I still fail to utilize all this power. This rig of mine feels no different than when I had my Opteron 165 @ 3Ghz.

And if you haven't noticed, he uses the computer for internet and homeworks other than GW, so why get a Core 2 when you can get a X2 3600+ for so much cheaper? Not to mention X2 3600+ is well capable of 3Ghz. As you asked, "why bring a Ferrari to a go kart track?" Even for futureproofing, AM2 would still do a pretty good job at that.

I'm sure a Veyron is fast, but I guarantee you won't need 253mph on a technical track, so let's pick the Caterham.
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Also, what RES are you running your game at?
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everyone is assuming he can overclock. based on his limited knowledge of computer parts, i'd guess his computer is a Dell, HP, Gateway, or something like that.

as far as processor goes, i also think he's kind of in a weird position. if he gets a 4200+ Toledo, he won't run any faster on single threaded apps because his clock speed will be the same. the next step up in processor speed costs quite a bit more.

as far as a memory upgrade, just keep what you have and get another 1 Gig (2x512) DDR 400 memory. don't get DDR2 400, as there is a difference and it won't fit in your motherboard.
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Core 2 isn't a necessity. The cheapest, E4300, still costs roughly twice the price of a X2 3600+. C2D doesn't stomp all over AM2 until you get a E6600 with a good week, and yet I still fail to utilize all this power. This rig of mine feels no different than when I had my Opteron 165 @ 3Ghz.

And if you haven't noticed, he uses the computer for internet and homeworks other than GW, so why get a Core 2 when you can get a X2 3600+ for so much cheaper? Not to mention X2 3600+ is well capable of 3Ghz. As you asked, "why bring a Ferrari to a go kart track?" Even for futureproofing, AM2 would still do a pretty good job at that.

I'm sure a Veyron is fast, but I guarantee you won't need 253mph on a technical track, so let's pick the Caterham.
Sure it doesn't feel any different for day to day use but some applications including some games Core 2 really take advantage of that extra CPU power. I play DOD:S almost exclusively and Source games are known for their high reliance on the CPU. Before when a lot was going on at one particular moment I could drop down to 40FPS using a +3800 clocked at 2.7 but now I never drop below 65. When I upgraded from my x1900xt to my 8800GTS I noticed next to no performance gain when playing Source games on my AMD rig. Another good example is Supreme Commander which is CPU intensive. Playing online with 300+ units on both sides duking it out I would drop down to about 25FPS and now I never drop below 45.

I did notice he mentioned his rig was to be used for mostly homework, internet and GW and thats why I said base your purchases on your requirements but I was just offering an opinion if he was going to think about building a completely new system. IMO Core 2 Duo still offers the best bang for your buck overall. However that scenario does change from individual to individual and that is why I made the Ferrari comment.

If all you really are going to do is use your rig for homework, internet and GW then you really don't need to purchase an AM2 or C2D. Just buy another gig, buy some aftermarket cooling for your CPU and overclock that sucker. You did say you would like to purchase all new components though so if you do go AM2 or C2D both will suffice for your needs. Before you do though I'd suggest overclocking your system just to see what kind of benefits you will see. I bet the benchies you were looking at that had similar components all had OC'd processors.
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everyone that has a Conroe loves his Conroe, but this guy already owns a motherboard and memory. let's not forget that he'll probably have to buy a new copy of Windows if he gets a new motherboard too. if i was in his boat and had a limited budget, i'd stick with Socket 939 and upgrade in that category.

and DoD:S... really? it hurts my head just thinking about playing that game.
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just buy a new cpu. a e4300 wont set u back much and thats a ****-hot card you got their so after that it should be fine. guild wars isnt a demading game anyway.
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well I don't have any knowledge on how to OC my comp, is it hard to do?
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depends really. not if you know what you are doing but theres always the risk of it all going tits-up. if your comp is good for OCing then by all means go for it, just make sure you have researched it fully and have some decent cooling.
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well I don't have any knowledge on how to OC my comp, is it hard to do?
Everyone starts off with limited knowledge, just read some guides and have a go
    
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let's do what we should have done right off the bat and ask you to fill in your system specs by going into your User CP and filling all that stuff out. it will help us answer your questions a lot better. we need to know the make and model of your motherboard and all other parts.

if you have an OEM computer like a Dell or HP, you cannot overclock.
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