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so the processor and this memory.....my vid card SHOULD be happy right? please say yes, all this is hard to pay off with only a weekend job, and other misc. bills to pay :X
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i can't imagine a more cost-effective upgrade. for $110, you will be doubling your number of processors, doubling your cache memory, and doubling the amount of RAM.
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Before you go off and do something crazy like that... clean up your Windows install. Guild Wars should have no problem running on a 3200+
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Windows can be the make or break of any PC related activity !!!
    
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Before you go off and do something crazy like that... clean up your Windows install. Guild Wars should have no problem running on a 3200+
GW should have no problems RUNNING off a 3200+, but a 7950GT is going to have all the trouble in the world not being bottlenecked.
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another question...should I just purchase 2x1gb ram? I read amd doesn't perform well with 4 channels?
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See man, you could have gone with an entirely new budget C2D build that you get maximum performance and headroom for upgrade. 1GBx2 DDR1 gonna cost a lot of money. But a decent 1GB pair of DDR2 stay below $70.
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Sure it doesn't feel any different for day to day use but some applications including some games Core 2 really take advantage of that extra CPU power. I play DOD:S almost exclusively and Source games are known for their high reliance on the CPU. Before when a lot was going on at one particular moment I could drop down to 40FPS using a +3800 clocked at 2.7 but now I never drop below 65. When I upgraded from my x1900xt to my 8800GTS I noticed next to no performance gain when playing Source games on my AMD rig. Another good example is Supreme Commander which is CPU intensive. Playing online with 300+ units on both sides duking it out I would drop down to about 25FPS and now I never drop below 45.
I don't think generating unnecessary FPS justify the cost of a E4300. It's not like his eyes are gonna notice it, plus the X2 3600+ still costs half a E4300 and many has gotten it to 3Ghz. Not much people cares about FPS as long as they see the game smoothly.

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I did notice he mentioned his rig was to be used for mostly homework, internet and GW and thats why I said base your purchases on your requirements but I was just offering an opinion if he was going to think about building a completely new system. IMO Core 2 Duo still offers the best bang for your buck overall. However that scenario does change from individual to individual and that is why I made the Ferrari comment.
Well it's clear that there's one AMD you can't beat in price/performance. And best bang for buck can't be an opinion, it's been judged by benchmarks and market prices. Nothing beats a X2 3600+ in that category, not to mention it's priced the same as the Conroe-L single-core Celerons, and there's no point of upgrading to another single core.

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If all you really are going to do is use your rig for homework, internet and GW then you really don't need to purchase an AM2 or C2D. Just buy another gig, buy some aftermarket cooling for your CPU and overclock that sucker. You did say you would like to purchase all new components though so if you do go AM2 or C2D both will suffice for your needs. Before you do though I'd suggest overclocking your system just to see what kind of benefits you will see. I bet the benchies you were looking at that had similar components all had OC'd processors.
Personally I had a 3500+ @ 2.75Ghz and I didn't think it did a good job in terms of regular usage. These days only a dual-core will get you a good experience even in regular non-gaming usage, especially when there's one for $60. The first time I used my Opteron 165 I was extremely surprised how a 1.8Ghz dual-core was so much better than a 2.75Ghz 3500+ in desktop environments.
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thanks for the help yet again guys...

I'll stick with this 939, and save as much money as I can. Then maybe in the future I can build my dream comp without looking for only value.
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thanks for the help yet again guys...

I'll stick with this 939, and save as much money as I can. Then maybe in the future I can build my dream comp without looking for only value.
If you're gonna stick with S939 then consider these:

X2 3800+ OEM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103052

G.Skill 2x 512MB (if you have 2 empty slots available): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231012

They should last you for quite a while and put an end to that 939 system, while un-bottlenecking that 7950GT you have.
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