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We heard about an upcoming GPU from NVIDIA on 256-bit memory interface earlier this month and we thought it is the rumored 256-bit version of G84. Now we learned that it is actually the next generation G92, a 65nm performance part supporting PCI Express 2.0 and 256-bit memory interface. G92 performance lies between GeForce 8800 GTS and 8600 GTS so it is not the highest end GPU from the G9x series yet. There might be a G90 which we haven't heard about yet and NVIDIA gave clues that their next generation GPU will deliver close to 1 TFlops of performance in a recent analyst conference. G9x could support Double Precision FP too. Sampling will start in September and slated for launch in November timeframe.
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=5092

Looks like more than one source is picking up on the G92.

2 Questions:

1. Will PCI-e 2.0 be anywhere backwards compatible? Will it just be a faster PCI-e slot? (i.e. PCI-e 32x). Cause if not i'll be one pissed puppy about having to update my board AGAIN.
2. What the hell is double precision FP?
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Just what I thought, nVidia wouldn't release any high-end card 'til Q2 2008 I'm guessing. It's actually good news though. 65nm would bring down manufacturing costs, then mid-range cards will actually worth its money by beating 7-series/X1k-series cards, given that it'll perform between the 8600GTS and 8800GTS, with even a lesser price than a 8600GTS. Good deal for those who can't afford too much.
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are you serious? What are we gonna use for crysis then?
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are you serious? What are we gonna use for crysis then?
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1. Will PCI-e 2.0 be anywhere backwards compatible? Will it just be a faster PCI-e slot? (i.e. PCI-e 32x). Cause if not i'll be one pissed puppy about having to update my board AGAIN.
2. What the hell is double precision FP?
It's called PCIe 2.0 because it doubles the bandwidth, but also the amount of power that can be provided to the card. With PCIe 2.0, it's quite feasible that a 65nm part with 8800GTS performance could run without any external 6-pin/8-pin connectors.

Double precision refers to floating-point/decimal calculations. CPUs traditionally have had ~50 bits of precision. Newer 64-bit CPUs have ~80 bits of precision for decimal calculations. When the decimal number is stored in memory, it is stored as a float(32 bits), or double(64 bits).

nVidia's current GeForce 8's only calculate to ~32 bits of precision, which makes them fairly lacking for physics calculations. Double precision should make them entirely capable of folding, and serving as a general purpose math co-processor(ex: for media encoding, and offloading various tasks from games).
     
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What do you guys think 48-64 stream processors couples with a 256bit 512mb DDR3 or 4?
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I'm guessing 64 stream processors with 512 GDDR3 on a 256-bit bus.
 
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they do make those in isa right? I really don't want to upgrade this thing again.
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Just what I thought, nVidia wouldn't release any high-end card 'til Q2 2008 I'm guessing. It's actually good news though. 65nm would bring down manufacturing costs, then mid-range cards will actually worth its money by beating 7-series/X1k-series cards, given that it'll perform between the 8600GTS and 8800GTS, with even a lesser price than a 8600GTS. Good deal for those who can't afford too much.
No... nVidia siad they would do high-end card launch in Nov/Dec and then mid/entry range in Spring. They siad that will be their launch schedule for at least a few years.
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they do make those in isa right? I really don't want to upgrade this thing again.
you can get an isa to pci adapter then a new fancy PCI video card
    
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