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for $200 i could get a intel cpu and mobo that will destroy your little x2
for one a e4300 cost 110 at the least and a "good" MOBO" not just some carp that you pulled out of your @$$ is in the 140-200$ rang,when you can make me somthing that last more than a year or 2 for 200$ that will "own" my rig give me a call.Also you will need to add in cash for a heat sink for OCing as a stock e4300 will not beat my rig as it stands.

Also i am looking into geting a INTEL upgrade with a new MOBO and CPU and the best i could do was a e4300 and a 680i SLI for 322$,i will i whant the 680i so that i will be ready for the future and this is probley what it will get after my 8800GTS upgrade is done,So in now way am a any fanboy.
    
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amd is delaying and delaying.....phenom better kick all intel proc's ass piled TOGETHER in order for amd to come back to the top again......
its like waiting for fallout 3
    
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post #13 of 44
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For the price of the Intel cpu and mobo that you have, I could buy an AMD rig with an 8800GTS that will destroy your little 7600GT.... Oh, wait... I already did.

Seriously people, try to stay on topic for once. Unless you do video encoding or photoshop, or are concerned only with completing WU's, stop getting so bunched up about which CPU you own.
So you spent $280 on a whole AMD rig with an 8800GTS? I haven't even seen an 8800GTS ITSELF for that much (640MB); and the 320MB is almost exactly that much....
Well i do video encoding; and DO use photoshop; not to mention video rendering and highly cpu intensive scientific (biochemical/neural) molecular interaction simulations and calculations with tons of variables and using data from real speciments in lab. so yeah i can say for sure that e4300 overclocked PWNS 4200+

and, btw, a 6000+ doesnt even come CLOSE to my cpu, which i got for $180...so yeah
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edit: Here's an excellent quote from a C2D owner in another thread just in case anyone has any further confusion about the issue:



I honestly don't really care when the Phenoms come out... when they do, I'll buy one. I don't care for Intel's business practices, and therefore will not buy their products. My brother-in-law is an Intel process engineer in Phoenix and my sister is an assistant in upper level management, and I really don't care for some of the stories they've told me about the inner workings of the company...
dude, every business works this way; no company is a champion of the people; it is absurd to suggest that somehow, since amd is getting pwned they are somehow on our side. that BS has got to stop. think before you speak, fool, and you will realize that ANY, i cant emphasize enough, ANY business wants only your money. Just because you people erratically think AMD is 'nice' (stupidest **** i have ever heard) does not mean in ANY WAY that I would buy a piece of ****. But you would...thats real logical
    
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dude, every business works this way; no company is a champion of the people; it is absurd to suggest that somehow, since amd is getting pwned they are somehow on our side. that BS has got to stop. think before you speak, fool, and you will realize that ANY, i cant emphasize enough, ANY business wants only your money. Just because you people erratically think AMD is 'nice' (stupidest **** i have ever heard) does not mean in ANY WAY that I would buy a piece of ****. But you would...thats real logical
he didn't say AMD was his buddy, he just said he doesn't like Intel's business practices. Consider what it's doing with the Core 2 Quad, a price reduction to ~$280, when they have no quad core desktop competition. The only reason to do this is to stomp the competition. Whereas AMD kept prices high on the AMD X2, they had the superior product, and they priced it in such a way as to stir competition, not to crush the opposition. I know amd just wants my money, i'd be a fool to think otherwise, but considering what I've just said, and that there's evidence Intel was paying off Dell for processor exclusivity, I really can't respect their business practices.
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LOLOLOL who would expect anything else, every company does this. dont tell me yall dont remember chomping at the bit everytime they pushed back conroe.
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An AMD quad-core thread news turned into Intel vs AMD battle. Hmmm classic!
You'd think that they would have gotten bored with it seven years ago, eh?

Oh well, at least it keeps someone entertained. Can someone give me a shout when AMD releases Phenom so we can get back on with facts and leave fiction behind us? Thanks guys!
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he didn't say AMD was his buddy, he just said he doesn't like Intel's business practices. Consider what it's doing with the Core 2 Quad, a price reduction to ~$280, when they have no quad core desktop competition. The only reason to do this is to stomp the competition. Whereas AMD kept prices high on the AMD X2, they had the superior product, and they priced it in such a way as to stir competition, not to crush the opposition. I know amd just wants my money, i'd be a fool to think otherwise, but considering what I've just said, and that there's evidence Intel was paying off Dell for processor exclusivity, I really can't respect their business practices.
**** what planet do u live on? are u ppl so niave u think they are the only ppl that do this sort of thing?
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Keep On Topic :swearing:
    
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I think that the Phenom is not going to be able to cut it. Most people have switched to Core 2 Duo. It would be quite hard to convince them to switch back to AMD for high end systems. Especially with SLI on Intel chipsets around the corner.

Its too early to claim it(phenom) isn't going to make the cut... I saw the early take on AMD quad performance @ Anandtech, where it was claimed clock for clock phenom was slower. However, that was done with unreleased hardware and most assuredly an immature bios.

I went c2d this time around because when I needed a new computer thats where the performance was. As it stands now I am considering trying to sell my current rig via Craigslist for $300 more than it cost me to build($700). I know 1k sounds crazy, but old P4 rigs sell for around 700 on craigs(at least in my neck of the woods). If it sells great, I'll go C2Q sometime after 7/22. If it doesn't sell I'll wait to see where the performance crown is around 1Q08... Anyway long rambling tangent aside, Intel won this round and thats undeniable if AMD wins the next round and I'm in the market for a new computer I'll go AMD period.

Brand loyalty is understandable, its something corporations want individuals to really embrace. Much like religion brand loyalty often implies blind faith and trust in something beyond one's own control. I see it as the power of perception, if one intensely believes in something it tends to eventually/perpetually ring true(well in their own mind anyway).

I'm too "budget limited" to really embrace brand loyalty . (school, females and beer seem to siphon away all my money *not necessarily in that order )
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for one a e4300 cost 110 at the least and a "good" MOBO" not just some carp that you pulled out of your @$$ is in the 140-200$ rang,when you can make me somthing that last more than a year or 2 for 200$ that will "own" my rig give me a call.
whats your phone #?
open box DS3=$90; new DS3=$110
TForce that Pauldovi linked to, oh thats right you dont read anyone elses posts...thats WELL below any BS figure of 140-200...where'd you come up with that. perhaps you pulled it out of your ass
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