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AMD puts second-generation "Stars" plans on its roadmap, now with more celestial names

AMD’s latest roadmap outlines plans for second-generation Stars quad, dual and single-core processors. Five second-generation Starsprocessors are in the pipeline for 2H’2008. The five variants include quad-core Deneb FX and Deneb, dual-core Propus and Regor, and single-core Sargas. The new processors drop into new Socket AM3 and AM2+ motherboards for backwards compatibility.

All second-generation Stars processors have new memory controllers with DDR3 and DDR2 memory compatibility. Taking advantage of DDR3 memory requires the use of a Socket AM3 motherboard though. Socket AM2+ users can upgrade to second-generation Stars processors with a memory bandwidth penalty.

Second-generation Stars processors introduce AMD’s 45nm fabrication process. AMD plans to make a quick move to 45nm. The entire product lineup will move to 45nm within 2H’2008, unlike the move to 65nm, which began Q4’2006 and still in process.

Succeeding Agena FX and Agena processors is the Deneb FX and Deneb cores. AMD has not set any specific details such as cache configuration or HyperTransport speeds yet. However, Deneb FX and Deneb processors will carry on with shared L3 caches and HyperTransport 3.0. AMD will offer Deneb FX in Socket AM2+/AM3 and land-grid array 1207+ socket configurations. Expect Deneb FX and Deneb cores to carry the Phenom FX and Phenom X4 names.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7913

Anyone notice that AMD has been playing tag with Intel. Expect AMD is always "it."

AMD is never going to beat Intel to a die shrinkage (45nm, 32nm), they are never going to beat that to a multicore achievement (quad core, 8 core, 16 core), and will likely not beat them in the near future in performance.

What they need to come up with is something different, something revolutionary. Stop playing tag with Intel. Make Intel catch you.

Come out with something like Sony's cell processor, I don't know. But they can't beat Intel at Intel's game. They need to make their own game. But they won't... It is a shame.
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post #2 of 71
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Originally Posted by pauldovi View Post
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7913
AMD is never going to beat Intel to a die shrinkage (45nm, 32nm), they are never going to beat that to a multicore achievement (quad core, 8 core, 16 core), and will likely not beat them in the near future in performance.

What they need to come up with is something different, something revolutionary. Stop playing tag with Intel. Make Intel catch you.
Are you done reading AMD's horoscope!
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Seriously Paul, Do you forget that AMD PWND Intel for 3 years? From 2003 to 2006 Intel had nothing but crap for processors. Intel has now had the performance lead for exactly 13 months. If Barcelona PWNS Penryn will you still buy Intel?
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The entire product lineup will move to 45nm within 2H’2008, unlike the move to 65nm, which began Q4’2006 and still in process.
I'm going to take that with a grain of salt. Moving an entire lineup to a new process is an enormous task and I am skeptical that AMD will be able to pull that off.
    
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AMD is just dreaming that someday they will pwn Intel, but that's just when they dream and look at the stars. Intel is drowing AMD completly more than AMD ever did. Intel already has 45nm CPUs NATIVE Quad-cores which will be on shelves in a couple months.
    
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Apparently, Yorkfield is not native Quad.
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AMD is just dreaming that someday they will pwn Intel, but that's just when they dream and look at the stars. Intel is drowing AMD completly more than AMD ever did.
Yet another dream interpretation
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Seriously Paul, Do you forget that AMD PWND Intel for 3 years? From 2003 to 2006 Intel had nothing but crap for processors. Intel has now had the performance lead for exactly 13 months. If Barcelona PWNS Penryn will you still buy Intel?
AMD did not pwn Intel at all.

AMD may have produced better components, but they were not 'mainstream' and didn't have the marketing that Intel did. Intel still sold more CPU's than AMD and that is why they didn't break. Unfortunately AMD do not have that luxury whilst Intel is in the lead.
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If Barcelona PWNS Penryn will you still buy Intel?
That isn't going to happen. Early benches prove that Barcelona will need to be 50% faster than a C2Q clock per clock to keep up. Thats not including the fact that Penryn will be 10-15% faster than C2Q.

AMD seemed to clack off in their years in the "lead"
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Early benches prove that Barcelona will need to be 50% faster than a C2Q clock per clock to keep up.
plz !
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