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Its always like that for PC hardware,Always something new every year just keeps growing and growing.More money to spend on your PC.
 
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Well I am very happy that I did not buy another 8800 GTX. Seeing that it would basically be wasting money ( IMO ).....
    
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Well I am very happy that I did not buy another 8800 GTX. Seeing that it would basically be wasting money ( IMO ).....
Yeah one 8800GTX is just enough for handling Dx10 with high settings
 
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Well what i meants by DX10 games from the ground up were things such a crysis, games that were said to run dx10 from the start, not jsut an add-on. Where did you read that bioshock is only going to run 30fps on our current high-end hardware? I have been reading that it is supposed to run quite well, and same goes for crysis. I agree that the difference won;t be extreme but the crysis comparison videos between dx9 and dx10 looks quite different IMO. It has also been said ina crysis Q&A that in multiplayer there will be a special option for DX10 that will actually affect gameplay since it will allow real-time weather changes in lighting that dx9 cannot reproduce, and what i mean by there is night and day changing during gameplay. This I guess will limit dx9 users to these custom match which should prove to be pretty cool. But, like you said it all depends ont he developer on how they choose to use the API and I also think the source engine is beautifully crafted and I cannot wait to see how HL2 Episode 2 look on my computer.
WE really need a title such a crysis to show us that DX10 is more than jus t a"Lower Framerates" option and show us at least a hint of its power.

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It will be at least 2-3 more generations of hardware before we see an exlusive title.

In games like Bioshock and Crysis, DX10 is being used to enhance effects like water and smoke, and in some cases lighting. There isn't going to be this huge difference, just little enhancements... I have read an interview with one of the Bioshock developers that they are designing the game to run at 30fps+ on current gen high end hardware... same goes for Crysis it appears.

These initial DX10 titles are obviously not well coded. Look at the broad range of hardware HL2 runs on and looks absolutely beautiful... the source engine is a masterpiece IMO.

I am very confident I will get at least 25-30fps maxed @ 1680x1050 on the first round of well coded DX10 titles... remember people, not all games are well written. Look at Stalker and RB6V if you need examples. Lost planet planet and COJ fall into the same category.

People have always paid big bucks to squeeze out that extra bit of eye candy... even if DX10 didn't exist and the 8800's were DX9 only cards they still would have sold boatloads. You all know it.
    
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THAT IS DisGustIng!
    
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LOL its all marketing, and the 8600 is worth it for those of us who arent rich as all hell. Mine performs quite well in all my games with its minor overclock, and with new drivers "true dx10" games will run fine. And i bought mine because my 6800ultra died and my 7300 sucked so this was great for the price, dx10 was just a bonus.
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You all are gonna suck eggs when, in the year 2020, Crysis and Alan Wake come out! THEN you'll be jealous with me and my GTX. Of course, you all will have the 12,000 GTX by then. And I'll be in tears.

For now, I'm happy with my random Vista blue screens and application crashes.

New M$ operating systems feel like sunshine on your face...then you realize you're in outer space with no helmet...
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DX10 sucks.

Now go cut yourselves for buying into the DX10 hype and buying $600 cards that land you a whole 30fps.
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DX10 @30FPS or DX9.0c @50-75FPS ?.....ummmm, DUH!!! DX9 wins again.

Why would anyone in their right minds go out and spend $600 for a graphics card that can only get 30FPS, when in reality games should be around 60FPS for a quality gameplay experience. I have seen the videos and comparisons between DX9 and DX10 and I'm not at all impressed by what I have seen. I'll stick with my X1900 card and run games at a comfortable 45-60FPS instead of spending the $2,500 to upgrade to parts that will be middle of the road once Christmas roles around. The fourth quarter of 2007 or first quarter of 2008 should be when the second generation DX10 cards come out + the second generation quad core processors...this is what I'm waiting on.
    
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Where did you read that bioshock is only going to run 30fps on our current high-end hardware?
It was a one-on-one interview with someone on the development team... I'm not going to dig it up because by the time I find it the game will be out already. He said something to the effect of: "We are working to ensure that Bioshock will run on max settings at a minimum 30fps with current hardware"

I remember what I read very vividly, I just can't remember where it was.

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DX10 @30FPS or DX9.0c @50-75FPS ?.....ummmm, DUH!!! DX9 wins again.
So where have you managed to get ahold of DX9 framerate benchmarks for Crysis and Bioshock? Your comparison makes no sense. For all we know the framerates at max settings for DX9 and DX10 will be nearly identical in those titles...

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Why would anyone in their right minds go out and spend $600 for a graphics card that can only get 30FPS, when in reality games should be around 60FPS for a quality gameplay experience. I have seen the videos and comparisons between DX9 and DX10 and I'm not at all impressed by what I have seen. I'll stick with my X1900 card and run games at a comfortable 45-60FPS instead of spending the $2,500 to upgrade to parts that will be middle of the road once Christmas roles around. The fourth quarter of 2007 or first quarter of 2008 should be when the second generation DX10 cards come out + the second generation quad core processors...this is what I'm waiting on.
So you think your x1900 is going to get 45-60fps in Crysis and Bioshock if an 8800 can't?

I didn't spend $600, I bargain shopped for my 640mb and spent $280... could you tell me... how much did the x1900 series cost when it was a six month old card?

I bought an 8800GTS because I wanted to... period. You all need to stop trying to justify your decisions to not upgrade by bad-mouthing all those who did. I'll repeat what I said before... even if the 8800's were DX9 only, they still would have sold boatloads of them.

Also, average framerates don't matter to those in the know... only minimum do.

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Originally Posted by PaRoDoX
DX10 sucks.

Now go cut yourselves for buying into the DX10 hype and buying $600 cards that land you a whole 30fps.
Try running Oblivion at 4xaa/16xaf +HDR and Qarl's texture pack @ 1680x1050 single card with anything but a GTS 640mb or GTX... good luck, get back with me and let me know how it worked out for you.


I bought my card because it is an awesome card... end of story. DX10 is just an added bonus.
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