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Correct me if I am wrong, but I think AMD is comparing the benchmark of the chip just after release, which would be a fair comparison if the AMD chip measures up to the specs listed when released. Then they will imporve the chip and compare it to an intel chip that has just as much R&D. Actually makes sense to me, if the AMD chip lives up to expectations.
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post #42 of 82
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Originally Posted by odie View Post
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think AMD is comparing the benchmark of the chip just after release, which would be a fair comparison if the AMD chip measures up to the specs listed when released. Then they will imporve the chip and compare it to an intel chip that has just as much R&D. Actually makes sense to me, if the AMD chip lives up to expectations.
It doesn't make any sense. Because that 2.6Ghz Barcelona will not be competing with Woodcrest Xeon chips. No one cares how much R&D you put into a chip. What they care about is what is best at this current time.
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post #43 of 82
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It doesn't make any sense. Because that 2.6Ghz Barcelona will not be competing with Woodcrest Xeon chips. No one cares how much R&D you put into a chip. What they care about is what is best at this current time.
If AMD's fist release beats Intel's first release, then in theory if AMD ever catches up to Intell AMD's chips will be better. This makes perfect sense to me.
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post #44 of 82
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Originally Posted by odie View Post
If AMD's fist release beats Intel's first release, then in theory if AMD ever catches up to Intell AMD's chips will be better. This makes perfect sense to me.
If that were the case then the charts would be labeled as such, which they clearly are not.
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post #45 of 82
tl:dr

Who trusts what companies say, anyway? It's what they do that counts.
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post #46 of 82
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If AMD's fist release beats Intel's first release, then in theory if AMD ever catches up to Intell AMD's chips will be better. This makes perfect sense to me.
Well the trouble there is your comparing a first relese of two products that are going to be a minimum of six months apart...that would be a september release. I am pretty sure that every one has conceded that there will be no Barcelona in september. Where's it gun'a stop? Are they going to compare the barcelona to the release of the first P3 next?

Plus the stats are shown not to be correct for the Intel product and the only thing supporting the AMD results is AMD's word.

AMD is just throwing out a marketing ploy here...nothing more. They hope that it will last long enough and be seen by enough people who don't know any better to help out their profits.
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post #47 of 82
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You shouldn't be smiling do you remember what the prices of CPU were before AMD?
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post #48 of 82
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I guess it is going to be real sad when the chip comes out and the performance is lackluster for those people who are screaming "Wait for the launch!" "Wait for the launch!"
Yeah, wait for the bloggers to tell you something and listen to them. Bloggers know all!
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post #49 of 82
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If I mess with the BIOS settings around midnight and come back in the morning, my CPU is "ramped" up, no?
jeez!

I mean, It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out!

DOnt they realize that whatever works stably for an architecture, is what INTEL/AMD calls "stock" ??

All they probably did, was run the chip at a (faster speed) which they found to be stable...


all in all.
I, like a few others.. would rather cus the RESULTS of the ACTUAL chip.

Speculation is no void of purpose at this point in time..
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There is a whole other thread on this issue that is not sourced from a blog just a few topics down...
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