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If he wanted to spend a little more this is a good one to..


...D-Tek Kit

Or if he wants custom we can alway help him put one together...That little Swifty kit at that price is a pretty good value and its a great way to get someone into WC'ing with-out spending a fortune..It would be OK for light OC'ing....Now if he's wanting to use it for a quad-core or something I would for sure get something better....
I agree, the swiftech kit is a really good value, but it's not the best for OCing, trust me on that one lol.

If he's just going to be getting a CPU loop setup, you could get a pretty good custom setup for him for not much more:

7/16" ID Masterkleer Tubing - Cheap, but Ira-k swears by this stuff hehe
Dtek Fuzion - Popular block, can't dispute that it's awesome
DD-CPX1 12V Pump - That isn't the best pump around, but it would get the job done with a CPU only loop. You could alternatively spend twice as much now on a better pump like the MCP355 or MCP655, but that's up to you/your friend.
BIX 240 - This isn't a GTX or Thermochill PA, but it will get the job done and won't cost your friend his arm and/or leg in the process

With a couple high airflow fans, that comes to a total of around $170-180 with shipping. Or a tad bit more if you went with better pump.

Just an example though
I'm sure you know all this lucky

Edit: that also assumes he would use a t-line vs a res, which would cost more money to implement.
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I agree, the swiftech kit is a really good value, but it's not the best for OCing, trust me on that one lol.

If he's just going to be getting a CPU loop setup, you could get a pretty good custom setup for him for not much more:

7/16" ID Masterkleer Tubing - Cheap, but Ira-k swears by this stuff hehe
Dtek Fuzion - Popular block, can't dispute that it's awesome
DD-CPX1 12V Pump - That isn't the best pump around, but it would get the job done with a CPU only loop. You could alternatively spend twice as much now on a better pump like the MCP355 or MCP655, but that's up to you/your friend.
BIX 240 - This isn't a GTX or Thermochill PA, but it will get the job done and won't cost your friend his arm and/or leg in the process

With a couple high airflow fans, that comes to a total of around $170-180 with shipping. Or a tad bit more if you went with better pump.

Just an example though
I'm sure you know all this lucky

Edit: that also assumes he would use a t-line vs a res, which would cost more money to implement.

Which rad is better the BIX or the GTS from BlackIce?
    
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Which rad is better the BIX or the GTS from BlackIce?
I have used the GTS rads before, and I have a BIX (hasn't been hooked up yet, but I hear good things). The BIX is a better choice unless you are worried about space, in which the GTS would be your best bet.

Think like this: More surface area = better.

Seeing how the BIX is almost twice as thick as the GTS, it has a lot more surface area, thus more cooling potential.
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I have used the GTS rads before, and I have a BIX (hasn't been hooked up yet, but I hear good things). The BIX is a better choice unless you are worried about space, in which the GTS would be your best bet.

Think like this: More surface area = better.

Seeing how the BIX is almost twice as thick as the GTS, it has a lot more surface area, thus more cooling potential.
I agree with you on the surface area. I just see all of these custom builders that only use 120 rad like a GTX or Thermochill one. But it is starting to get way to pricey for him. But I am currently building my system with a GTX240 & GTX480. I hope my 655 pump can run the double loop?

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You need to keep in mind the BIX is a good rad but you need 100+cfm fans on it...The GTS you can use lower cfm with good results...depends on if you want quiet or not..


For a BIX these are what I would use..


...108 Sunon

....Panaflo 115cfm

For a GTS..

...Panaflo FBA12G12M1J 120mm High Speed Fan

...Sunon 120mm Ball Bearing Fan w/ 3pin 84CF



And for either one be sure to use a shroud with them..


...Rad Shroud Testing With and With-Out
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Grrr I was just at the MicroCenter store here in Tustin, Ca looking around. And this guy in front of me found this great deal. He got this XFX 8800GTX in the original box for only $350.00 it was a used/returned, but he gets a 30 day warranty through the store and 1 year warranty throught XFX. Just my luck. I got my EK 8800GTX block a couple of days ago.. Starting to put things together... Now I am waiting for the Q6600 & E6850 to complete my builds.....
    
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Grrr I was just at the MicroCenter store here in Tustin, Ca looking around. And this guy in front of me found this great deal. He got this XFX 8800GTX in the original box for only $350.00 it was a used/returned, but he gets a 30 day warranty through the store and 1 year warranty throught XFX. Just my luck. I got my EK 8800GTX block a couple of days ago.. Starting to put things together... Now I am waiting for the Q6600 & E6850 to complete my builds.....


HaHa...Thats my kind of luck.......You'll get it up...Hey I would put some shrouds on that GTX, I did some shroud testing with that rad and a shroud will give you a lot better temp's...And I was just running thin ones like 3/4"...1.5" is what I've always heard is optimal so if you make some go at least that deep with them...I make mine out of aluminum channel but I will leave you a guide on how to do them easier...The aluminum channel you have to cut semi-circles out in the ends and sides so it wont hurt fan flow...They are nice and solid when you get them bolted to the rad but its a pain....

Heres my shroud testing...


...Part 1-Temp's With and With-Out Shrouds

Nice shroud guide..How To: Build A Performance Shroud
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HaHa...Thats my kind of luck.......You'll get it up...Hey I would put some shrouds on that GTX, I did some shroud testing with that rad and a shroud will give you a lot better temp's...And I was just running thin ones like 3/4"...1.5" is what I've always heard is optimal so if you make some go at least that deep with them...I make mine out of aluminum channel but I will leave you a guide on how to do them easier...The aluminum channel you have to cut semi-circles out in the ends and sides so it wont hurt fan flow...They are nice and solid when you get them bolted to the rad but its a pain....

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...Part 1-Temp's With and With-Out Shrouds

Nice shroud guide..How To: Build A Performance Shroud
With a push/pull and a 1.5 shroud on each side?

I have been thinking I just may buy the Thermochill PA120.3 with shoud and add my 3 SilentX 90CFM fans to it. I will be using the above setup 240GTX push/pull 78CFM each side, with the thermochill rad outside the case with the SilentX fans? Using 655 pump, D-tek Fusion with Q6600 or E6850?, eK 8800GTX full block, with 1/2 Tygon tubing. Think it will keep everything cool?
    
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With a push/pull and a 1.5 shroud on each side?

I have been thinking I just may buy the Thermochill PA120.3 with shoud and add my 3 SilentX 90CFM fans to it. I will be using the above setup 240GTX push/pull 78CFM each side, with the thermochill rad outside the case with the SilentX fans? Using 655 pump, D-tek Fusion with Q6600 or E6850?, eK 8800GTX full block, with 1/2 Tygon tubing. Think it will keep everything cool?


Yeah it should..You might be able to get buy with just the PA.3 instead of both....Yeah if you have room put shrouds on each side of the rad it will cool better...
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