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ive read tutorials and tried, but apparently i have no clue what i am doing.. would anyone want to help me over clock this chip? maybe step by step or something? stock it runs at 2.4ghz.... thanks for the help. sorry its not a more specific question. i never have overclocked before...
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1. First go poking through every aspect of our BIOS to learn it. Just don't save when exiting untill your sure what to change.
2. Do disable Cool N Quiet when OCing along with any thing that has "Spectrum" in it!
3. There are a few basic guides you should read to get up to speed.

A bit outdated but still informative
http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...ing-guide.html
From the 939 era but still very informative... the only real diff is the RAM change from DDR to DDR2
How do I find the Limits of my CPU, Memory and Motherboard
    
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alright... i read that.. still a little confused, but not as much as before
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post #4 of 12
Some basics...
So be patiend as I will continue to add on and edit...

1. The CPU defaults (or stock speed) is 200 MHz. You won't see the "MHz" after speeds in the rest of the post...
2. The RAM defraults at 200 also.

The CPU OC will effect the RAMs speed.
Not knowing what RAM you have complicates things for us ot advise you.

Anyway, the CPU OCing effects two relative but different RAM speeds!
1. The base speed rating like in the DDR2 800
That can increase with the CPU OC to the point of causing instability and may require changes in thew default speed, the voltage to the RAM or RAM timings.. kind of deep but not to important yet
2. The RAMs overall HT speed
The HT of the RAM default is 200x5 for an overall of 1000.
So, the "5" can be reduced to 4, 3 or 2. You want to reduce the HT multiplyer to keep the overall HT undet about 1000 but it may be able to run as high as 1200ish and not cause instability. Note: Do not confuse those with the CPU's multiplyer!

A basic ...
Lets say you increase the CPU speed to 250.
1. You may need to set the RAM to DDR2 667
2. You may need to reduce the HT multiplyer to 4x ( likely will for stability)
THE HT or Memory Controler may als have aan option to increase voltage.
Things that may help...
1. Increace the CPU voltage 1 incriment at a time.
2. TEST with OCCT or Orthos for both stability and full load CPU temps. DO NOT excede the low 50c range under full load!
3. Thew RAM may like some extra voltage too to run at higher speeds or fdore stability... but again no clue on what you have.
4. There aree "Chip Set" voltage increases that to may improve the OC and stability... some BIOS have "NB" or "SB" in the referance to them.

The most important things to remember arr...
Patience
Move up[ slowly with the CPU speed increases and any voltage increase
WATCH your FULL load temp of th CPU!
    
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post #5 of 12
The asus mobos are more of a seasoned oc ers board but they have alot of oc ing versatilely as well. You want to go into your Jumper free settings and set your oc ing to manual. Once you get it set to manual you can change your multi and your fsb. I will bookamark this post and elaborate tomorrow when I am not as inebriated. OC ing is a beautiful thing do not give up under any circumstances you may screw things up alot but that is how we learn. I have the same board and it is an oc ing monster (though the pci-e chipset died and is in RMA) and I will help you make your rig scream tomorrow when I have my head about me.
    
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Now Grasshopper, read the forum posts on simular systems, you will get firmiliar quickly and find OCing is a bit time consuming but well worth the effort
    
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post #7 of 12
i have the 3800+ am2 .. i could only get mine to 2.52ghz
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post #8 of 12
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my ram is 1gb kingston ddr2 667 (pc2 5300)
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somebody tell me where i can find the htt multiplier setting on my mb.. i have asus m2n... maybe its called something else on my board.. im not sure...
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Hmm, Memory Controler, sometimes called the LDT but usually in Abit and DFI and displayed as a 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5X... some use 200 for 1x, 400 for 2x etc but I don't beileve in any Asus Bios.
    
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